Tuesday, December 27, 2011

CLARIFICATION REGARDING STENOGRAPHER GAZATTED POST

ESTABLISHMENT DIVISION, NOTIFICATION NO.SRO.1530(I)/73, DATED 3rd November, 1973.

In exercise of the powers conferred by Section 25 of the Civil Servants Act; 1973 (LXXI of 1973), the President is pleased to make the following rules:-
1. (I) These rules maybe called the Civil Servants ( Change in Nomenclature of Services and aboltion of Classes) Rules, 1973.
(2) They shall come into force at once.
2. In these rules, unless there is anything repungnant in the subject or context,-
(I) "Classes' means Class I, Class II (non-Gazetted) Class III and Class IV, in which the civil pots and services are classified under the Civil Services (Classification, Control and Appeal) Rules or any other rules or orders for the time being in force;
(2) 'Federal Unifed Grades' comprise all services and civil posts connected with the affairs of the Federation other than those included in the All Pakistan Unified Grades under the All PakistanServices (Change in Nomenclature) Rules, 1973;

(3) 'Grade' means a National Scale of Pay in which a post or group of posts in placed;

(4) 'Services' means the civil services of the Federation.

3. Notwithstanding anything contained in any rules, order, resolution or instruction , te names of services a4re, with immediate effect, changed to Federal Unified Grades and all references to a service in any rules, order, resolution or instruction shall, consistent with the subject context, be construed as refrence to the resective Federal Unified Grade.

Explanation.- For the purposes of this rule and rule 5, ' respective Federal Unified Grade' means the Grade to which a civil servant is fetitled in respect of his existing post under the National Scales of pay.

4. All Civil posts connected with the affairs of the Federation, not being posts in the All Pakistan Unified Grades, shall belong to one of the Federal Unified Grades.

5. All persons who immediately before the coming into force of these rules were members of a service or held a civil post connected with the affairs of the Federation, not being a post in the All Pakistan Unified Grades, are appointed in their exsting posts to the respective Federal Unified Grades.

6. Notwithstanding anything contained in the Civil Services(Classification, Control and Appeal), Rules and any other rules, or orders for the time being in foce, all classes and classifications of services and posts as gazetted and non-gazetted are abolished.

7. For the purposes of applications of any existing rule, order of instruction, reference toa class or to a post as gazetted or non-gazetted shall be construed as reference to the corresponding *Grade as specified in the table below:-

Class - Gazetted posts Correspondng Grades
(1) Class I......................(1) Grade 17 to 23.
(2) Class II....................(2) Grade 16.

Non-Gazetted posts
(3) Class II....................(3) Grades 11 to 15.
(4) Class III..................(4) Grades 3 to 10.
(5) Class IV...................(5) Grades 1 and 2.

8. Notwithstanding anything contained in any rule, order or instruction, all reservations or posts for purposes of appointment, promotion or transfer in favour of persons belonging to a particular service or cadre, or holding a particular post, are abloshed.

(Authoristy.-Estt.Division D.O letter No.5/1/73-ARC.II dated 30-10-1973].

25 comments:

  1. Is any body here who tell the latest position in province of punjab

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  2. Yes, Ihsan dear,it seems that have not read the O.O.M of Finance Division dated 23.12.2011, therein, copy to Chief Secretary to all provinces has been endorsed i.e. clear cut instructions to them for giving upgradation to stenos in Punjab. There is no need for further clarification. If any body hesitates to implement the Finance Division, you may point out, it leads to contempt of courts,Estt.Div. and F.D.
    Khalid Bhai, only put the rules on this forum or website are not sufficient,it also needs special correspondence for all the resting matters, still many questions required answers and clarifications/justifications. We should take up remaining demands with court of law.Thanks for all those colleagues who calls and give comments on this forum.
    Sabir Chauhan

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  3. My dear Sabir Chauhan,bhai,I saw your comments yesterday,thanks,I offer you to invite to Peshawar,as I have promised to your goodself in my previous comments,and than we both will be met to the Mr.Khalid Sahib and offer to him to dinner with us in any five star hotel in Peshawar for his act of kindness and I personally congratulation to all of colleques and also Mr.Khalid Bhai ,for his lengthy struggle and main part including his team in the upgradation of stenographers/ps.Awaiting for your reply. thank.

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  4. My Dear Mr Chauhan i have seen the O.O.M and read it carefully, i have no doubt its implementation will be whole pakistan. But I want to know that when other provinces do it. specially when the Punjab Government issue notification in this regard. can any body up dated on daily basis in province of punjab.

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  5. I think,every body should write to their Ministries and departments for treating us Gazetted with reference to CGA and Military Aduit Notifications and selection grade stenos for modifications in their orders e.g. BPS-15 to BPS-16 be modified in BPS-16 to BPS-17 as the basic scale of stenographers is upgraded. Only post the comments are not sufficient be practical. The implementation with immediate effect has also created problems, someone has retired before few days before whereas, the decision was prior to his retirement,what he will do?whenever our referrer is upgraded from 12.9.2005 instead of 2010. Ihsan bhai,I am in touch with punjab secretariat is this regard as and when I will receive any reply I shall post comment. Raihan Bhai, now a days I am suffering in Hay Fever, I will tell you later about your invitation. Salam to all colleagues.
    Sabir Chauhan

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  6. Dear adnan Suhaib,the notifiation issued from the Federal Govt:for upgradation of stenographers is for all of pakistan including WAPADA,but your competent authority after endorsed the copy of the same letter to the concerned division/subordinate offices for implementation that is the responsibility of their shoulder ,please be patience waiting and relex.

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  7. Chauhan Bhai Allah Pak aap ko sehat dai. aap jaldi say sehat mund ho ker jald say jald koi achi khabar dain.

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  8. I am pleased to know this upgradation news and congratulate all the community of Stenos. All those whose efforts brought fruit for the community are really appreciatable. Allah say dua ha k Punjab Government jaldi hamari upgradation karday ameen. M. Farooq, PS

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  9. Today I met with Mr. Mumtaz Zaidi, the Private Secretary to Commissioner Income Tax, Lahore and his other office colleagues. I am very happy to meet him. I pray for his long life and Almighty Allah Bless Him.

    With regards
    Muhammad Shafique Mughal
    Senior Stenographer,
    WASA (LDA) Lahore

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  10. Year 2011.
    Koi har gya koi jeet gya, ye saal b aakhir beet gya... Kabi sapny sajay anko me, kabi beet gaey pal baton me, kuch talkh sa lamhat b thay, kuch hadsy aur sadmat b thay, kuch berukhi kuch becheni, kuch mun main simti weeraani. Kuch lamhe thay yadgaar bohat, kuch lamhon ko barbaad kia..
    Year 2012
    Per ab k baras ey yar merey, mujhy Rub se dua ye mangni ha, koi pal na tera udas guzray, koi Rog na tujhy raas guzry, tu phono ki tarha khila kary, koi shaksh na tujh se gila kary, tu khush rahy abad rahy, tu jo chahy wo ho jay, tu jo mangy wo mil jay, teri maaf wo har ik khata kary tujhay esay hi Rab ata kary.
    Aameen Suma Aameen.

    With best regards to all community of Stenographers in Pakistan, May Allah Give us more happiness in the coming year 2012. Pakistan Zindabad, Pakistan Paindabad

    Muhammad Shafique Mughal
    Senior Stenographer,
    WASA (LDA) Lahore
    Cell No.0300-4649502

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  11. Assalam o Alaikum
    Thanks a lot Dear Brother Shafique Mughal, and we said AAMEEN on your pray and hopes on upcoming year of 2012 towards to your friends and colleagues. May Almighty Allah bless on us and our country in new year.

    Shafique Bhai I would like to share one thing with u that when our pay will fix then may be two to four stages will be lost from ourselves, because the present stage of BPS-15 will be fixed in BPS-16 which will definitely least then present. As such our any colleague existed on 20th stage of BPS-15 then what will u suggested about his fixing stage?

    Regards

    Afzal Hussain Shah
    Senior Scale Stenographer
    STEVTA, Sindh VTI Sukkur
    0300-9312695

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  12. Dear Afzal Hussain Shah, thanks for comments. Please note when pay fixation made in next scale in case of promotion or upgradation, then stages always down because increment of next scale is higher than lower scale. Therefore, if u r drawing in 20th stage, definitely your stages will be down back in next high scale.

    Muhammad Shafique
    Senior Stenographer
    WASA (LDA) Lahore
    Cell 0300-4649502

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  13. Attn: Dear Ghulam Mustafa Shakir, Stenographer, Finance Department, Punjab, Lahore.
    What about the latest position of upgradation of Stenographers in Punjab? I hope adoption of notification is under way and we will listen good news, Inshallah.

    With regards
    Muhammad Shafique Mughal
    Senior Stenographer
    WASA (LDA) Lahore
    Cell 0300-4649502

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  14. Hello colleagues,I read a name Ghulam Mustafa Shakir, Stenographer who belong to Finance Department, this is a good sign that a concern colleague is available but not on blogs. I request Mr.G.Mustafa to keep close liaison with other s who lives far furlong areas of punjab and want to listen good news.If you are in contact, please post comments with progress or leave you contact number for others help. I actually belong to Federal employees and don't need this, but help to other is my motto many friends calls me for information.Mughal bhai, I am happy to hear that are in contact with others as today your meeting with an attractive personality Mr.Mumtaz Ghani of Income Tax.
    Have you made any struggle as senior stenographer for next position e.g.prior to this seniors were in B-16 and basic scale was B-15, now whenever basic is upgraded than seniors must be in B-17.
    Sabir Chauhan
    Senior Stenographer
    Geological Survey of Pakistan,
    Trde Centre Block, Jauhar Town,Lahore
    Cell # 0300-4663778

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  15. Dear Sabir Chauhan ,bhai,how are you ,I am very sad when heard the comments that u were suffering from fever pray to god for recovery of your health ,now I am happy to read your comments to day and feeling that your health is better than before,the fixation is from lower stage to upper stage for example my
    BS-15,RS.27700/-now will be fixed in
    BS-16,Rs.31600/-that is a sample formula for upgradation without premature increment because the barucracy said that upgradation of the post is not promotion and not allowed premature increment further u know better than me,after the decision of the Honourable Courts and approval of the competent authorities now other way except acceptance of the orders,that is better for us because my LPR is upto 31.3.2012,and requested to my colleques will have continue their struggle under the flag of Mr.Khalid Riaz for BS-17,and hope in future result will be fruitable for in service stenographers.thanks.

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  16. Thanks Raihan Bhai.AOA, today I m feeling better, Raihan bhai if, you read F.D. O.M in the last para-1, they used their pay will be fixed the stage next above. the formula you have written, there will be on per-mature increment.Next stage in next scale and stage next above means one step above the pay fixed.May allah bless our bureaucracy, whose all blessing or for other all communities but against stenos. Perhaps, dear you have not read the decision of FST, Lahore and Supreme court who says that all benefits on promotion inducing premature increment be given on up gradation, because up gradation is equal to promotion. Decision is avaiable issued in this month of 2011. Case win Mr.Fayyaz of AGPR,Lahore.
    Sabir Chauhan

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  17. Assalam o Alaikum
    Dear Sabir Chauhan Bhai

    You were delivered in comments that" help to other is my motto". In this regard we are glade and hopeful that you will suggest and advise us in the matter as detailed below.

    We are the Stenographers of Sindh Provincial Government STEVTA Sindh, where in our post have been rationalized and re-designated from recognition of Stenographer to Computer Operator in the budget of 2011-2012, which is un-justified and through which rule they have done this change best known to them but only informed
    to us that our posts are rationalized and nomenclature changed into Computer Operator. However the FST ordered for Steno's
    up gradation on 06-12-2010. In pursuance of the order of Supreme Court now the Finance Division have also issued notification of up gradation of all Steno's Federal and Provincial community with immediate effect.

    Therefore the necessary legal
    assistance and advise may please be provided to us in regard to protect our designation of Stenographer which is changed by our department as a computer operator, where as all the procedure of Steno's appointment were
    adopted by the department when they appointed us.About total 28 Steno's are appointed and performing their services in our department with different service tenure from 5 to 25 years respectively.

    Still they have not shown their reluctance to implement on up gradation order of Finance Division. But it is apprehended that if they denied to do so. Then what we can do in this regard.

    Syed Afzal Hussain Shah
    Senior Stenographer (BPS-15)
    STEVTA, Manpower/Vocational Training (Wing)
    VTI Sukkur Sindh.
    Cell # 0300-9312695

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  18. Afzal Hussain Shah Sahib, game was played n our upgradation. because fixation in clerical upradaion was made on step to step basis. and authorities set mind to give financil to us.therefore they notified our upgradation from 2011 instead of 2005 and fixation will be made on next above stage in new scale from lower scale basic pay instead on step to step basis, which was implemented in clerical upgradation.

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  19. All Stenographers/P.Ss working in Finance Department, Punjab, Lahore are requested for pushing the Punjab Government and bureaucracy for early adoption of upgradation of Stenographers and also get upgradation of P.S. working in BS-16 into BS-17. This is our collective effort, therefore, we should made effort collectively. Herein, I will quote an example "Union is the Strength", therefore, we should made help each other.

    With best regards
    Muhammad Shafique Mughal
    Senior Stenographer
    WASA (LDA) Lahore

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  20. By the name of gracious almighty God. AoA and HAPPY NEW YEAR, with the hope and best of luck to all Pakistani.May ALLAH give us more happiness in this new year and remain helpful to solving our problems. Dear Afzal Shah Sb.as per our cell detailed discussion,after studying rules,I shall try to help you Inshallah. Shahid Bhai,there are many ambiguities in our upgradation, I hope Khalid Riaz and others will be in touch to clear these all anomalies i.e. (1) implementation date (2)impementation on FST decision B-17 (3) declaration of B-16 as Gazetted (4) about already stenos in B-14 and B-16 by virtue of selection Grade. It will be beneficial if a meeting is arranged with Finance and Estt.Divisions for solution of all problems. I will once again say you Happy new year.
    Sabir Chauhan

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  21. Dear Mughal Sahib. I appreciate your comments about unity. unity has strength, every body knows. Now a days proper dealers unions are established in Housing Schemes.I belong to Federal Govt. but,request to Provincial stenos to give big hands to Mr.Mughal's suggestion. May all give you success and achieve your goal.Mughal Bhai I am also in same situation and put my case to our Director General and I believe hope for the best.
    Sabir Chauhan
    Cell No.0300-4663778

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  22. Assalam o Alaikum
    Dear Sabir Chauhan Sahib
    Shahid Sahib &
    Shafique Mughal Sahib

    I think the suggestion of Sabir Chauhan Sahab is quite right.We should make efforts and request to Khalid Riaz Sahab that he may arrange a meeting with Finance and Estt. Divisions for clarification of ambiguities regarding our upgradation as cited in chauhan's comments.

    Further to Chauhan bhai thanks a lot you give your kind attention towards to our matter of nomenclature.We shall wait for your kind advise and suggestion to resolve our matter as discussed with you.

    With best Regards

    Afzal Hussain Shah
    Senior Stenographer STEVTA,
    Sindh, Sukkur.
    0300-9312695

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  23. Dear Brothers
    I m serving under the Ministry of Defence. There are some problems in our department/ministry regarding promotion of stenos. Stenos (BS-12) promoted to Stenographer (BS-15), then promoted Superintendent(BS-16) and then Assistant Director with Quota 10% / 90%. Please can u clarify that now stenographer already BS-16, now will they promoted in (BS-16) as superintendent or BS-17 Assistant Director. Please clarify.

    Amir Nawaz
    Stenographer, Ministry of Defence, Islamabad
    0343-5030797

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