The Nomenclature Change of Stenographer as Assistant Private Secretary are under process in Finance Division. Soon they will send the case to Establishment Division for approval.
We pray to Allah this will be beneficial for all Stenographers and may open some new venues for their promotion. I have one question, but then what the Asstt Private Secretary would be further promoted as Private Secretary or what?. In most of the departments only BS-21 officere can have P.S then what will be the future of these Asstt Private Secretaries, it would be better to have a time scale for these APS after 3-4 years they may be promtoed to BS-17, if possible, I fear if it may not stop their further promotion, kindly advice or guide me Khalid Bhai
We pray to Allah this will be beneficial for all Stenographers and may open some new venues for their promotion. I have one question, but then what the Asstt Private Secretary would be further promoted as Private Secretary or what?. In most of the departments only BS-21 officere can have P.S then what will be the future of these Asstt Private Secretaries, it would be better to have a time scale for these APS after 3-4 years they may be promtoed to BS-17, if possible, I fear if it may not stop their further promotion, kindly advice or guide me Khalid Bhai
Nothing is still clear for already B-16 and B-14, because Finance and Establishment Divisions have not yet been decided that what benefit of upgrdation they want to give them, e.g. one Time Scale promotion, New designation or next scale. One thing they should clearly decide first and latet issue the orders, then other question be raised and decide in the light of their decision amongist the granted benefit. Till today all the things are in the air, we want practicial in black and white.
Dear Khan. we request for nomenclature change from Stenographer to Assistant Private Secretary. Jab post P.S ki hogi tabi promotion hogi. Esi waja se hum ne Time scale manga ha BS-17 manga ha
Salam dear Riaz Bahi and all my brothers. Riaz Bahi pls let me know that r u also trying to get time scale for stenotypists. I from the deep of my heart appreciate ur efforts towards the whole case of PAs promotion infact whenever i red ur comments i never felt that in any stage u loose ur stamina despite harsh comments of my respected brothers. Regards
Dear Riaz Bhai... Here in AJK the Post of B-12 Steno is having the Nomenclature of Stenographer then B-15 (Senior Scale Stenographer)and Personal Assistant). Mostly Private Secretaries are of B-16 depending upon their department. the aforementioned posts are yet to be upgraded(the secretary finance AJK commited with President APCA that upon Notification in punjab, the posts will be upgraded accordingly to grade 14, 16 & 17 respectively). If So, the change in Nomenclature from Stenographer to Assistant Private Secretary will be applicable either for Grad-14 Steno or Grad-16.
Plz celar that any one stenographer who has moveove in 2001,in BPS-16,and after back fixed in BPS-15,according to the illegal amendment in services rules by one of dictator in the back support of some political parties ,is he is entitled from BPS-15 to BPS-17,OR otherwise.
Dear A. Raihan There are many Stenogrphers who were moved over in BS-16 and atereon were reverted in BS-15. Their departments have up-graded them in BS-16 in terms of Finance Division's O. M. dated 23.12.2011 and have refused to up-grade them in BS-17. I think they should be entitled for upgradatin in BS-17 but, unfortunately, there seems no chance. However, efforts should be made in this regard.
Dear Iqbal Ahmed Suhaib ,I am very much thankful to you for your early reply and explained the position with ref:of the Finance Division O.M.as desired in my aforesaid comments.
Dear Stenos, AoA I intend to share my services matters with of you for your kind advise and provision of information (if any).
I was appointed as Steno Typist (BS-12) in 1989 through Placement Bureau on adhoc basis during 1st govt. of Shaheed Benazir Bhutto Sahiba. My services were terminated during the govt. of Mian M. Nawaz Sharif Sahib in 1990 and wer reinstated in 1993 during 2nd govt. of BB. My services were regularized in 1994. I was promoted as Stenographer (BS-15) in 2008 against 50% departmental quota on regular basis and recently upgraded in BS-16.
Dear brothers, previous period of my service (1 and half year serving and three years of remaining out of service due to political decision and having no fault on my part)is still undecided despite repeated requests to my higher authorities.
It is pertinent to mention here that the Sacked Employees Ordinace, 2010 issued by the present govt. for reinstatement and giving back benfits to the employees sacked since 1994 is identical in nature.
Moreover, I have heard and read some references of Cabinet Division and judgmetns of the Honourable courts wherein the reinstated employees have been benefited with all back benefits and service also but the copies of them are not available with me.
You all brothers are requested to kindly advise me in this regard and if any information / judgment is available with you or your freinds, may be shared please. Will remain grateful. Regard, Iqbal Ahmed Stenographer
Dear Colleagues,nothing is being done for our betterment, Khalid Bhai is trying his level best, but the Ministries concern are not fully agreed with our demands. Other categories are being benifitted day to day and stenos already in B-16 and B-14 are still waiting for decisions. Raihan Bhai, there is no case of revered persons in 2001, hence no hope for any deacision of such cases.
AOA, it seems that every one is satisfied and sleeping after eating sleeping pils. Alas,how we are all selfish, no one is ready to even encourage those who are not benefited through upgradation order dated 23.12.2011. The original issue is under process and we are looking for others created in 2001.Khalid Bhai, what your source in Finance Division says about already in B-16 and 14. I tried many times but all in vain, because the cell always remained unattended. May allah help us. Perhaps, Raihan Bhai has been retired in the same scale. Like this many others are being retired on the same situation.
I visited Finance Division on 17.04.2012 for this purpose and collected the file from the concerned section and handedover to the DS(Reg:) for early finalisation of the case i.e (Time Scale). If satisfactory reply not received then we file the case in the Court.
Thanks Dear Khalid for advise. I have already contacted Mr. Khalid Munir. On his advise, I also emailed him my case history in detail and also briefly told on telephone. But, either he could not understand and read my mail or he is not interested. I felt his lack of interest. Regards, Iqbal Ahmed
It is regretfully, stated that stenos have been sliped from the forum and it remains only name its nomulclature should be changed so that we may be patience, slept and retired on the same scale as granted 20-40 years ago. The every anology is being adopted for others colleagues but not for already in B-16 and B-14. KHALID BHAI, PURSUE the case and if on one is ready to listen then pray collectively to GOD for hellp.
Thanks Khalid for all you have done for stenographer community. I suggest you as you are popular and trustworthy for this stenographer community. You should announce a platform for stenographers from all over the country and a format may be designed for registration all stenographers in that platform. After making the proposed platform. We should fight for our rights in any platform for example time scale promotion, nomenclature change, quota for stenographers for their concerned department’s posts etc
We pray to Allah this will be beneficial for all Stenographers and may open some new venues for their promotion. I have one question, but then what the Asstt Private Secretary would be further promoted as Private Secretary or what?. In most of the departments only BS-21 officere can have P.S then what will be the future of these Asstt Private Secretaries, it would be better to have a time scale for these APS after 3-4 years they may be promtoed to BS-17, if possible, I fear if it may not stop their further promotion, kindly advice or guide me Khalid Bhai
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We pray to Allah this will be beneficial for all Stenographers and may open some new venues for their promotion. I have one question, but then what the Asstt Private Secretary would be further promoted as Private Secretary or what?. In most of the departments only BS-21 officere can have P.S then what will be the future of these Asstt Private Secretaries, it would be better to have a time scale for these APS after 3-4 years they may be promtoed to BS-17, if possible, I fear if it may not stop their further promotion, kindly advice or guide me Khalid Bhai
ReplyDeleteNothing is still clear for already B-16 and B-14, because Finance and Establishment Divisions have not yet been decided that what benefit of upgrdation they want to give them, e.g. one Time Scale promotion, New designation or next scale. One thing they should clearly decide first and latet issue the orders, then other question be raised and decide in the light of their decision amongist the granted benefit. Till today all the things are in the air, we want practicial in black and white.
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ReplyDeleteDear Khan. we request for nomenclature change from Stenographer to Assistant Private Secretary. Jab post P.S ki hogi tabi promotion hogi. Esi waja se hum ne Time scale manga ha BS-17 manga ha
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DeleteHope you would be fine, we have firm believe on you and you have time and again proved it. May Allah help us all in achieving our just right.
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Salam dear Riaz Bahi and all my brothers. Riaz Bahi pls let me know that r u also trying to get time scale for stenotypists. I from the deep of my heart appreciate ur efforts towards the whole case of PAs promotion infact whenever i red ur comments i never felt that in any stage u loose ur stamina despite harsh comments of my respected brothers. Regards
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ReplyDeleteDear Riaz Bhai... Here in AJK the Post of B-12 Steno is having the Nomenclature of Stenographer then B-15 (Senior Scale Stenographer)and Personal Assistant). Mostly Private Secretaries are of B-16 depending upon their department. the aforementioned posts are yet to be upgraded(the secretary finance AJK commited with President APCA that upon Notification in punjab, the posts will be upgraded accordingly to grade 14, 16 & 17 respectively). If So, the change in Nomenclature from Stenographer to Assistant Private Secretary will be applicable either for Grad-14 Steno or Grad-16.
ReplyDeletePlz celar that any one stenographer who has moveove in 2001,in BPS-16,and after back fixed in BPS-15,according to the illegal amendment in services rules by one of dictator in the back support of some political parties ,is he is entitled from BPS-15 to BPS-17,OR otherwise.
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ReplyDeleteThere are many Stenogrphers who were moved over in BS-16 and atereon were reverted in BS-15. Their departments have up-graded them in BS-16 in terms of Finance Division's O. M. dated 23.12.2011 and have refused to up-grade them in BS-17. I think they should be entitled for upgradatin in BS-17 but, unfortunately, there seems no chance. However, efforts should be made in this regard.
Regards,
Iqbal Ahmed
Stenographer
Dear Iqbal Ahmed Suhaib ,I am very much thankful to you for your early reply and explained the position with ref:of the Finance Division O.M.as desired in my aforesaid comments.
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I intend to share my services matters with of you for your kind advise and provision of information (if any).
I was appointed as Steno Typist (BS-12) in 1989 through Placement Bureau on adhoc basis during 1st govt. of Shaheed Benazir Bhutto Sahiba. My services were terminated during the govt. of Mian M. Nawaz Sharif Sahib in 1990 and wer reinstated in 1993 during 2nd govt. of BB. My services were regularized in 1994. I was promoted as Stenographer (BS-15) in 2008 against 50% departmental quota on regular basis and recently upgraded in BS-16.
Dear brothers, previous period of my service (1 and half year serving and three years of remaining out of service due to political decision and having no fault on my part)is still undecided despite repeated requests to my higher authorities.
It is pertinent to mention here that the Sacked Employees Ordinace, 2010 issued by the present govt. for reinstatement and giving back benfits to the employees sacked since 1994 is identical in nature.
Moreover, I have heard and read some references of Cabinet Division and judgmetns of the Honourable courts wherein the reinstated employees have been benefited with all back benefits and service also but the copies of them are not available with me.
You all brothers are requested to kindly advise me in this regard and if any information / judgment is available with you or your freinds, may be shared please. Will remain grateful.
Regard,
Iqbal Ahmed
Stenographer
Consult Khalid Munir Advocate for legal opinion. Telephone No.03009706033
DeleteDear Colleagues,nothing is being done for our betterment, Khalid Bhai is trying his level best, but the Ministries concern are not fully agreed with our demands. Other categories are being benifitted day to day and stenos already in B-16 and B-14 are still waiting for decisions. Raihan Bhai, there is no case of revered persons in 2001, hence no hope for any deacision of such cases.
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AOA, it seems that every one is satisfied and sleeping after eating sleeping pils. Alas,how we are all selfish, no one is ready to even encourage those who are not benefited through upgradation order dated 23.12.2011. The original issue is under process and we are looking for others created in 2001.Khalid Bhai, what your source in Finance Division says about already in B-16 and 14. I tried many times but all in vain, because the cell always remained unattended. May allah help us. Perhaps, Raihan Bhai has been retired in the same scale. Like this many others are being retired on the same situation.
ReplyDeleteSabir Chauhan
I visited Finance Division on 17.04.2012 for this purpose and collected the file from the concerned section and handedover to the DS(Reg:) for early finalisation of the case i.e (Time Scale). If satisfactory reply not received then we file the case in the Court.
ReplyDeleteDear Khalid Bhai, thanks for updating about upgradation of already B-16 and B-14. May allah help us in our genuine right.
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Thanks Dear Khalid for advise.
ReplyDeleteI have already contacted Mr. Khalid Munir. On his advise, I also emailed him my case history in detail and also briefly told on telephone. But, either he could not understand and read my mail or he is not interested. I felt his lack of interest.
Regards,
Iqbal Ahmed
It is regretfully, stated that stenos have been sliped from the forum and it remains only name its nomulclature should be changed so that we may be patience, slept and retired on the same scale as granted 20-40 years ago. The every anology is being adopted for others colleagues but not for already in B-16 and B-14. KHALID BHAI, PURSUE the case and if on one is ready to listen then pray collectively to GOD for hellp.
ReplyDeleteSabir Chauhan
Thanks Khalid for all you have done for stenographer community. I suggest you as you are popular and trustworthy for this stenographer community. You should announce a platform for stenographers from all over the country and a format may be designed for registration all stenographers in that platform.
ReplyDeleteAfter making the proposed platform. We should fight for our rights in any platform for example time scale promotion, nomenclature change, quota for stenographers for their concerned department’s posts etc
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