Assalam-o-Alaikum Khalid Bhai, How are you Bhai jan and i hope that you and ur family will be fine and good health by the Grace of Almighty Allah...First of All, Sir u have a lot of sacrifices/struggle for steno community and every body who belong to steno community will be thankful to you sir. After a long time u come to on line on this forum with a latest news. I think u r angry with the steno community becoz when you will talk about contribution every body will be kept quite including me...and this is not fair for us. I will request on this forum of all my colleagues to join the hands of Khalid Bhai for struggle of steno community...if you want to achieve the target/goals. Khalid Bhai u r the greatest leader of our steno community.. May God give u and ur family a long life and prosperity.
Kind and Respectful Regards,
ZULFIQAR ALI AWAN ASSISTANT PRIVATE SECRETARY TRADE DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY OF PAKISTAN HEADQUARTERS, KARACHI.
Zulfiqar Bhai, sari tareefein hi likh di hain, koi Khalid Bhai ko batayein k APS aur Steno ki upgradation ko 04 saal guzar gye hain.
Khalid Bhai please time scale promotion ka case start karein otherwise Superintendent ki post pay promotion ye theek nai hai aur ess ka faida buhat kum logoo ko ho ga.
Sirf time scale promotion 03 ya 05 saal hi behtreen hull hai. (M. Azeem) APS.
Zulfiqar Bhai, sari tareefein hi likh di hain, koi Khalid Bhai ko batayein k APS aur Steno ki upgradation ko 04 saal guzar gye hain.
Khalid Bhai please time scale promotion ka case start karein otherwise Superintendent ki post pay promotion ye theek nai hai aur ess ka faida buhat kum logoo ko ho ga.
Sirf time scale promotion 03 ya 05 saal hi behtreen hull hai. (M. Azeem) APS.
Please do as your were performed previously. The pattern like previous which will beneficial for all community of Stenographer i.e APS, PS, and other steno's.
May! Allah Bless on you and your family.
May! Allah give you successes in your efforts towards to our steno's community. May this trial will beneficial for APS along with all steno's community. (AAMEEN)
Syed Afzal Hussain Shah Stenographer (BPS-16) STEVTA, Sindh, GVTI, Sukkur.
Assalam o Alaikum bhai Syed Afzal Hussain Shah. Bhai jan please premature increment ka bhe kuch karain koinkay agar hum mil kar kam ni karain gay to hum sub steno bhai pechay rahy jain gain koin kay ab to clerks kay scale bhe upgradation honay waly hain. Thanks Ap ka bhai Abdul Ghafoor Stenographer General Nursing School Attock
Respected Khalid Bahi, main ap ki tawja ak bahoot he zaroori point ki tarf dilwana chatta hun wo yah kah jin offices i.e Directorate or Directorate General main PS ki post nain ha aur hamaray bahoot say bahi including me 30,32 saal service karnay ka bawajood un ki ko 17 scale ki koi umeed nain. Un loogon kay liay koshish karian kah un ko bhi BS-16 kay bad time scale mil jay. Allah Pak ap ko aur himat aur hosla day Hum sub ap kay satth hain.
Malik M. Arshad APS, Directorate General (MIS) O/o of the Controller General of Accounts, Islamabad.
This is a good news that case is under trial in FST. But kindly clarify that this trial will beneficial for all steno's communtity or only for APS and PS.
Because, all colleagues are best known that lonely were can do so little but together we can do so much".
DEAR KHALID BHAI ASSALAM-O-ALAIKUM WHAT IS THE STATUS OF TWO CASES WHICH ARE STILL PENDING IN THE COURT FOR A LONG TIME. KINDLY UPDATE US ON THIS FORUM ABOUT THESE TWO CASES:- APS TIME SCALE BS-17 WITH ALL BENEFITS SUMMARY IS IN PROCESS IN CONTROLLER GENERAL OF ACCOUNTS FOR ONWARD SUBMISSION TO FINANCE DIVISION ISLAMABAD
10% QUOTA CASE NEXT DATE 28.04.2015 IS FIXED FOR HEARING AT ISLAMABAD HIGH COURT ISLAMABAD......
Dear Khalid bahi,AOA Long time has spend to getting the benefits for up-gradation for BPS-15 to 16 of APS but no further information has been received to us. Kindly up-date the new information relating to APS for grant of BPS-17. thanks Munir Qureshi APS
Mohtaram janab Khalid Riaz, Assalam-o-Alakum, Kindly update of time scale case of APS in Controller General office and in the High Court hearing date and also further sending it to the Finance and Establishments Divisions. I am in Foreign office Islamabad as APS. My further introductions will be sent later. Thanks. Javed Akhter, APS, Foreign Office, Islamabad. 31.12.2015
Asalamoalaikum WA rehmatullahi WA barakatuhu.... Khalid bhai... Plz try your best for upgrading stenos. Why this injustice happened? Assistants are now in 16 scale. Clerks gets equal scale Bs-14 with stenographers. Khalid bhai and all plz do something for our promotion in Bs-16 also, so that injustice could be end.
Where will the APS and Steno will go now as LDC, UDC and Asstt who were far lower in grades are now touching BS-16 from BS-11, on the other Stenographer has only been given one scale up-gradation from BS-15 to BS-16 with no scope of further promotion. Dear Khalid Bhai where will we go now the APS and Steno cadre. Need your help as ever and please try to move fast to get BS-17 directly for APS or at least a time scale with scope of promotion with length of every three years to BS-17, 18, 19 & 20 as you achieved for P.S, that was your hectic efforts which gave them such a gigantic advantage but on the other hand we did not get anything and only get one scale up uptill now which is not justice with this devoted cadre and we must also contribute as much we can financially to help our brother as he is fighting fight for all of us.
We've now a very strong and logical stand on the basis of recent upgradation of clerical posts to file our case claiming BS-16 for stengrapers and 17 directly for APS
All stenographers and brothers kya hum bus yahan comments hi kartay rahain gay? we have to fight for our rights....
Before 2007 Assistants were in BS-11 and Stenos were in Bs-12, Clerical staff in which Assistant fall gets promote two times and now Assistants are on Bs-16 while the stenos are on Bs-14, is this justice with Stenographers? Hum sub jantay k stenographers sub say zayada kaam kartay, yahan tak k Secretaries, SS, AS, sub Officers k sath stenos hotay, Assistant jitna kaam kartay woh jantay sub....
So, it is my humble request to Khalid bhai and all my stenos to please move forward and do something. Now the time is in our hands, once time gone nothing wil be good for us.... so plz jaag jain ......
i am Stenographer in Lahore, Punjab or KPK walay bhaion say request hai k agar woh summary put up karwain, steno k promotion ki, point ooper jo btaaya menay wohi dain k agar Assistant 2 times promote ho sakta to stenographer kyun nahi? Steno ko bhi Bs-16 dain.. PA/SSS/APS ko BS-17 or PS ko BS-18, this step should be taken, so that injustice could be end....
good suggestion ali bhai. ap to Lahore main hain. ap Chief Minister, Chief Secretary sab Lahore main hain ap sub kuch kar saktay hain. Sub stenographers ka faida ho jay ga
good suggestion ali bhai. kindly movement taiz kar dain takay hamian bhe 16 mil jay ap to lahore main hain kindly Chief Minister, Chief Secretary sab ko lakhian please
Dear Khalid Bhai and other respected members of the Association; Aslam-o-Alakum,
Kind consideration of the Honourable Prime Minister, Islamic Republic of Pakistan is very respectfully concentrated towards an injustice committed by the learned Ministry of Finance, Punjab as well as Pakistan whereby they have upgraded posts of Junior Clerks/Senior Clerks/Office Assistants and Office Superintendents from BS-5 to BS-11, BS-07 to BS-14, BS-11 to BS-16 and BS-16 to BS-17 even in shortest time span i.e. 8 years. We very respectfully produce a comparison chart which will, of course, ease the competent authority to ascertain the up gradation of pay scales made since the year 1987.
SR. NO: NAME OF THE POST. PAY SCALE IN THE YEAR 1987. PAY SCALE IN THE YEAR 2007. PAY SCALE IN THE YEAR 2015. 1 Junior Clerk 05 07 11 2 Senior Clerk 07 09 14 3 Head Clerk/Office Assistant. 11 14 16
The following chart is helpful to judge up-gradation of Stenographers/Personal Assistants and Private Secretaries made since the year 1987.
SR. NO: NAME OF THE POST. PAY SCALE IN THE YEAR 1987. JUSTICE DEMANDS PAY SCALE IN THE YEAR 2007. PAY SCALE SHOULD BE IN THE YEAR 2015. REMARKS 1 Stenographer 12 14 18 Precedent is made to upgradation of Clerical staff. 2 Personal Assistant 15 17 21 “ 3 Private Secretary 16 18 22 “
Sir, the decision of up-gradation made by the respected Ministry of Finance of Pakistan as well as all the provinces falling under administrative jurisdiction of Islamic Republic of Pakistan is quite beyond our thoughts as it does not fulfill the requirements of justice. A Junior Clerk have been uplifted 6 stages, Senior Clerk 7 stages while Office Assistant/Head Clerk 6 stages even in 08 years (from 2007 to 2015) but contrary to that, a simple Stenographer who was one stage up (in pay scale) than the office Assistant/Head Clerk as in the year 2007 Office Assistant was in BS-11 while Stenographer in BS-12 but in accordance with the above referred Notification, the Office Assistant/Head Clerks have been boosted up in BS-16 but a Stenographer who was senior to him, is still working in BS-14 (2 stages less than the Head Clerks/Office Assistants). Can this exercise of up-gradation be call “undue blessing” or it does fall in any other sort of relief? The respected stakeholders can explain better to the Hon’ble Prime Minister of Pakistan regarding up-gradation of different cadres made since the year 1987.
Sir, another irony of fate is that; the work of Stenographer/Personal Assistant and Private Secretary is ultra-laborious which usually causes impairment of our lungs by way of severe tuberculosis because we have to depress different keys more than 400 times per minute to find out typing speed of 50 or 60 words per minute. No category other than Stenographer, Personal Assistant and Private Secretary accomplish such a heavy assignment but only the “Construction labour” performs such heavy type of tasks but he does not depress any key in such a speed.
Sir, in the above circumstances, we have deep concern (hmen dukh sirf iss bat ka hey k) that; Clerks are being upgraded frequently/without any lawful reason but the other categories i.e. Stenographer, Personal Assistant and Private Secretary are neglected all the ways of life. Therefore, justice demands up gradation of different categories at par considering their capability, property of knowledge towards the position he/she is occupying. Otherwise, we will see the junior persons coming-in as BOSSES carrying ultra-upper pay scales and we will perform our functions under their administrative command despite the facts that we were initially recruited as Stenographers (BS-12), Personal Assistants (BS-15) and Private Secretaries (BS-16) and the gentlemen being upgraded ultra-rapidly were recruited as Junior Clerks in BS-05.
Dear Khalid Bhai, Kindly write down your cell number because entire community of Stenographers/Personal Assistants and Private Secretaries want to have been contacted with your goodself. It will be an honour for all of us to speak and discuss the issues with learned President of our association so that we could be able to get the grievances redressed as well by putting the same in kind notice of stakeholders of the state. Thanks. Rana Tariq Mehmood, Personal Assistant, MDA, Multan Cell: 0300-6385835. rtmmda@gmail.com
Application regarding upgradation of Stenographers, Personal Assistants/Assistant Private Secretaries, Private Secretaries/Senior Private Secretaries has been sent to Prime Minister of Pakistan for consideration.
Salam, The application has been sent to PM as desired by Rana Tariq, but u did not inform through Finance or any other department please inform to forum. Please update the latest information. Munir Qureshi. APS
Dear Sajid Mehmood Sahib, GOD may bless you and your family. We don't want to compete any particular community but the issue is that; we want our legitimate rights either by making requests to the learned Prime Minister or through any other stakeholder. It is admitted that Office Assistants are highly qualified community but "Truth does not change anywhere". Therefore, I would request not to criticize among each other. In this way, we will really go-off from the original track. I pray for your long life. May Allah bless all of us. Aamin
Dear Brother Rana Tariq I agree with your comments & arguments. But the problem is that we are not united & sincere with our cadre / steno community since & before 23-12-2011. Last up-gradation was the achievement of Khalid Bhai with our minor contribution. But this time Khalid Bhai not taking interest in our forum for the up-gradation of our community steno, APS, PS, SPS. I will request on this forum of all my colleagues to join the hands of Khalid Bhai for the struggle of steno community, If you want to achieve the target/goals.
AOA, we APS should effort for grant of BPS-17 nor did effort for suprintendent-17 if we avail the chance to superintendent we will junior most in the category of superintendent, we should effort for private secretary or sr.private secretary, because our the same case for up-gradation/time scale. So, we will unite and struggle for the grant of BPS-17 for APS. Munir Qureshi Assistant Private Secretary.
Governments of KPK, Balochistan and now Punjab has upgraded the posts of Clerks Cadre as:
Jr. Clerk from BS7 to BS11 Sr. Clerk from BS9 to BS14 Assistant from BS14 to BS16 Superintendent from BS16 to BS17
It is discrimination for Steno Typist of BS14 as the Senior Clerk has also upgraded in BS14. Now no difference between Senior Clerk and Steno Typist. A matric based Senior Clerk, no type, no computer, no shorthand, no telephone attendance become equal to Steno Typist while Steno Typist is based of F.A. with Shorthand, Type/Computer, telephone attendance and personal work of immediate Boss. Its mean there is no value of Shorthand.
Now, Stenographer cade move efforts for upgradation in BS16, BS17 and BS18.
Muhammad Shafique Mughal Senior Scale Stenographer WASA (LDA) Lahore
Governments of KPK, Balochistan and now Punjab has upgraded the posts of Clerks Cadre as:
Jr. Clerk from BS7 to BS11 Sr. Clerk from BS9 to BS14 Assistant from BS14 to BS16 Superintendent from BS16 to BS17
It is discrimination for Steno Typist of BS14 as the Senior Clerk has also upgraded in BS14. Now no difference between Senior Clerk and Steno Typist. A matric based Senior Clerk, no type, no computer, no shorthand, no telephone attendance become equal to Steno Typist while Steno Typist is based of F.A. with Shorthand, Type/Computer, telephone attendance and personal work of immediate Boss. Its mean there is no value of Shorthand.
Now, Stenographer cade move efforts for upgradation in BS16, BS17 and BS18.
Muhammad Shafique Mughal Senior Scale Stenographer WASA (LDA) Lahore
MAY! ALMIGHTY ALLAH BLESS ON YOU AND OUR COMMUNITY. IT IS INDEED THAT WE ALL STENO'S ARE SUFFERING UNDER DISCRIMINATION. NOW A DAYS I AM LOOKING AT THIS FORUM THAT SOME COLLEAGUES ARE SUGGESTING THEIR GOLDEN IDEAS PERTAIN TO OUR RIGHTS AND UP GRADATION ETC. BUT IT THINK THAT WE HAVE TO GO FORWARD COLLECTIVELY. MOREOVER SINCE LONG KHALID BHAI IS ALSO UNDER QUITE SILENT MODE. WOULD THAT HE MAY TAKE INITIATIVE ONCE AGAIN ENERGETIC EFFORT AND MARVELOUS ACHIEVEMENT. (AAMEEN)
Salam to all my colleagues. I try my best to persue the case but due to some problems unable to move the case in the court. Wait for a few days I am also waiting for the arrears of a hiring case when finalized then I will be in the court for Bps 17 for APA and 16 for steno
Wednesday, 22 February 2012 STENOS UPGRADATION CLARIFICATIONS FROM ESTABLISHMENT DIVISION Different Ministries/Divisions/Departments etc have sought clarification on the following points from Establishment Division.
i) The existing Stenographers/Stenotypists already working in BS-16 and BS-14 from 1983 (rendering 30 years service in BS-16 and BS-14) have been deprived to consider/give any promotion benefit, whereas they have only one to two years service to attain the age of superannuation, how they would get promotion benefit of Private Secretary (BS-17/BS-18)? The existing Stenographers/Stenotypist working in BS-16/14 may be upgraded in BS-17/15 one time basis.
ii) In provincial Government as well as in most of the Universities Stenotypist posts is of BS-12, Stenographers post is of BPS-15, while most of the Private Secretary's post which carries BPS-16 will be upgraded or otherwise?
iii) Stenographers working in BS-16 may be granted time scale BS-17 on the condition of three years service in BS-16. The newly/upgraded Stenographers (BS-16) may also be granted time scale BS-17 on completion of three years service in BS-16.
iv) Whether Project Staff is also entitled to the benefit of upgradation.
v) Due to the Devolution some of Federal Departments are devolved and their staff adjusted in Provincial Government on deputation basis they are also entitle for upgradation?
vi) On 23/12/2011 BS-18 awarded to Private Secretary on one time basis. Taking the benefit of the length of service O.M if they complete 12 years service they are entitled for BS-19 as Senior Private Secretary?
vii) Under whose jurisdication the selection of candidates against the post of Stenographer (BS-16), for initial appointment will fall; whether FPSC or DSC as generally the posts in BPS-16 (Gazetted ) and above fall under the purview of FPSC.
The Establishment Division is requested to give their advice on the above mentioned points/issues.
Assalam o alaikum..... would u khalid bhai may very kindly be in field..... Thousands of eyes are hopping to have you in field.... May we strieve for getting upgradation of bps 14 stenotypest to 16 as well as stenographers and aps working in bps16 to 17 on the basis of current blessing and promotions of scales... The ground is suffice for claiming our upgradation that we being neglected can never serve with energetic devotions and we was appointed at a senior post than that of our brothers who was appointed in bps5 now will be able to retire in a guzzeted scale i.e bps16 .... and we who was appointed in bps14 and 16 having no prmo channel are being deprived of our rightful promotions.... its a call of time to promote us in bps 17 and further to have a promo channel of upgradation at least to bps 20
We all the community say welcome back between us you Khalid Bahi and ensure you our full cooperation in any ways. Your above message is a hope for us. Stay blessed.
WHAT IS THE STATUS OF THESE TWO CASES. KIND REGARDS, ZULFIQAR AWAN
Thursday, April 30, 2015 APS TIME SCALE BS-17 WITH ALL BENEFITS SUMMARY IS IN PROCESS IN CONTROLLER GENERAL OF ACCOUNTS FOR ONWARD SUBMISSION TO FINANCE DIVISION ISLAMABAD
Wednesday, April 22, 2015
10% QUOTA CASE NEXT DATE 28.04.2015 IS FIXED FOR HEARING AT ISLAMABAD HIGH COURT ISLAMABAD......
Respected Madam, We have to coordinate with Khalid Bhai on this issue. Further we can get our rights only one way and that way is "COURT OF LAW" because Govt.of Pakistan will not give us our rights as per our past experience.In this connection we start movement for collection of funds from our all colleagues and this is the difficult task for us because we want only benefit without spending of single pine. This is the big task and this task can only achieve if we will become united and join the hands of Khalid Bhai. Khalid Bhai have power and confidence to fight for our right and he will do each and every thing for us but everybody from us will financial contribute for this big task.
Assalam o alaikum.....May you bro please contact at my cell 03404919976.... I m working in district Mandi Bahauddin as stenographer in bps 16.... I would like to convince my collegues to share hands with all of you with a huge consideration.... yet I am unaware whether there is any claim for the stenographers woking in bps16 to 17 and onward to form any promo channel for the same..... waiting for your kind consideration
Dear colleagues, we should efforts for grant of BPS-17 like PS before announcing the next budget May-June-16, otherwise we left behind with other category becuase the Finance Minister will announce the other category of post. We should sincere and effort and contribution for aforesaid purpose and again writ in high court/FST.
AoA. khalid bhai no responce is received as yet from your side b coz all steno community is looking at you n hoping that u will b successed to give them upgradation as all the other posts have been upgraded recently except steno community.plz plz do something for stenotypist n APS. regards, Nadeem Stenotypist
ALL OF YOU REQUESTED TO START MOVEMENT FOR COLLECTION OF FUNDS...PLZ... I TALKED TO KHALID BHAI ...HE IS READY TO FILE THE CASE FOR APS/STENO TIME SCALE IF WE WILL CONTRIBUTE THE FUND.... PLEASE ALL OF U REQUESSTED TO KINDLY START MOVEMENT OF COLLECTION OF FUNDS...PLZ........PLZ.............WE SHOULD NOT WASTE THE TIME....
Assalam-o-Alaikum Khalid Bhai,
ReplyDeleteHow are you Bhai jan and i hope that you and ur family will be fine and good health by the Grace of Almighty Allah...First of All, Sir u have a lot of sacrifices/struggle for steno community and every body who belong to steno community will be thankful to you sir. After a long time u come to on line on this forum with a latest news. I think u r angry with the steno community becoz when you will talk about contribution every body will be kept quite including me...and this is not fair for us. I will request on this forum of all my colleagues to join the hands of Khalid Bhai for struggle of steno community...if you want to achieve the target/goals. Khalid Bhai u r the greatest leader of our steno community.. May God give u and ur family a long life and prosperity.
Kind and Respectful Regards,
ZULFIQAR ALI AWAN
ASSISTANT PRIVATE SECRETARY
TRADE DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY OF PAKISTAN
HEADQUARTERS, KARACHI.
Zulfiqar Bhai, sari tareefein hi likh di hain, koi Khalid Bhai ko batayein k APS aur Steno ki upgradation ko 04 saal guzar gye hain.
DeleteKhalid Bhai please time scale promotion ka case start karein otherwise Superintendent ki post pay promotion ye theek nai hai aur ess ka faida buhat kum logoo ko ho ga.
Sirf time scale promotion 03 ya 05 saal hi behtreen hull hai.
(M. Azeem) APS.
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DeleteZulfiqar Bhai, sari tareefein hi likh di hain, koi Khalid Bhai ko batayein k APS aur Steno ki upgradation ko 04 saal guzar gye hain.
DeleteKhalid Bhai please time scale promotion ka case start karein otherwise Superintendent ki post pay promotion ye theek nai hai aur ess ka faida buhat kum logoo ko ho ga.
Sirf time scale promotion 03 ya 05 saal hi behtreen hull hai.
(M. Azeem) APS.
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ReplyDeleteAssalam o Alaikum
ReplyDeleteRespected Brother Khalid Riaz Sahib
Please do as your were performed previously. The pattern like previous which will beneficial for all community of Stenographer i.e APS, PS, and other steno's.
May! Allah Bless on you and your family.
May! Allah give you successes in your efforts towards to
our steno's community. May this trial will beneficial
for APS along with all steno's community.
(AAMEEN)
Syed Afzal Hussain Shah
Stenographer (BPS-16)
STEVTA, Sindh,
GVTI, Sukkur.
Assalam o Alaikum bhai Syed Afzal Hussain Shah.
DeleteBhai jan please premature increment ka bhe kuch karain koinkay agar hum mil kar kam ni karain gay to hum sub steno bhai pechay rahy jain gain koin kay ab to clerks kay scale bhe upgradation honay waly hain.
Thanks
Ap ka bhai
Abdul Ghafoor
Stenographer
General Nursing School
Attock
Assalam-o-Alaikum
DeleteRespected Khalid Bahi, main ap ki tawja ak bahoot he zaroori point ki tarf dilwana chatta hun wo yah kah jin offices i.e Directorate or Directorate General main PS ki post nain ha aur hamaray bahoot say bahi including me 30,32 saal service karnay ka bawajood un ki ko 17 scale ki koi umeed nain. Un loogon kay liay koshish karian kah un ko bhi BS-16 kay bad time scale mil jay. Allah Pak ap ko aur himat aur hosla day Hum sub ap kay satth hain.
Malik M. Arshad
APS, Directorate General (MIS)
O/o of the Controller General of Accounts,
Islamabad.
Assalam-o-Alaikum Khalid Bhai, Bhai jan please premature increment ka bhe sochian mari dua hay kay Allah ap ko her problems say bachay ameen
ReplyDeleteAbdul Ghafoor
Stenographer (BPS 14)
General Nursing School
Attock
Assalam o Alaikum
ReplyDeleteDear Khalid Riaz Bhai,
This is a good news that case is under trial in FST. But kindly
clarify that this trial will beneficial for all steno's communtity or only for APS and PS.
Because, all colleagues are best known that lonely were can do so little but together we can do so much".
Syed Afzal Hussain Shah
DEAR KHALID BHAI
ReplyDeleteASSALAM-O-ALAIKUM
WHAT IS THE STATUS OF TWO CASES WHICH ARE STILL PENDING IN THE COURT FOR A LONG TIME. KINDLY UPDATE US ON THIS FORUM ABOUT THESE TWO CASES:-
APS TIME SCALE BS-17 WITH ALL BENEFITS
SUMMARY IS IN PROCESS IN CONTROLLER GENERAL OF ACCOUNTS FOR ONWARD SUBMISSION TO FINANCE DIVISION ISLAMABAD
10% QUOTA CASE
NEXT DATE 28.04.2015 IS FIXED FOR HEARING AT ISLAMABAD HIGH COURT ISLAMABAD......
Dear Khalid bahi,AOA
ReplyDeleteLong time has spend to getting the benefits for up-gradation for BPS-15 to 16 of APS but no further information has been received to us. Kindly up-date the new information relating to APS for grant of BPS-17.
thanks
Munir Qureshi
APS
Mohtaram janab Khalid Riaz, Assalam-o-Alakum, Kindly update of time scale case of APS in Controller General office and in the High Court hearing date and also further sending it to the Finance and Establishments Divisions. I am in Foreign office Islamabad as APS. My further introductions will be sent later. Thanks.
ReplyDeleteJaved Akhter, APS, Foreign Office, Islamabad. 31.12.2015
Asalamoalaikum WA rehmatullahi WA barakatuhu.... Khalid bhai... Plz try your best for upgrading stenos. Why this injustice happened? Assistants are now in 16 scale. Clerks gets equal scale Bs-14 with stenographers. Khalid bhai and all plz do something for our promotion in Bs-16 also, so that injustice could be end.
ReplyDeleteWhere will the APS and Steno will go now as LDC, UDC and Asstt who were far lower in grades are now touching BS-16 from BS-11, on the other Stenographer has only been given one scale up-gradation from BS-15 to BS-16 with no scope of further promotion. Dear Khalid Bhai where will we go now the APS and Steno cadre. Need your help as ever and please try to move fast to get BS-17 directly for APS or at least a time scale with scope of promotion with length of every three years to BS-17, 18, 19 & 20 as you achieved for P.S, that was your hectic efforts which gave them such a gigantic advantage but on the other hand we did not get anything and only get one scale up uptill now which is not justice with this devoted cadre and we must also contribute as much we can financially to help our brother as he is fighting fight for all of us.
ReplyDeleteAll stenographers say request hay kay agar hum nay as dafa kuch ni kia to humara kuch bhe nahi ho sakta please kuch na kuch karna chaey
ReplyDeleteKhalid bhai kuch Karen ab SR clerk 14 ma ha our steno typist bhe same.
ReplyDeletesir ab to senior clerk b bs 14 me aur steno b 14 me, kuch kro sir ji
ReplyDeleteAll stenographers say request hai kay agar hum nay as dafa kuch ni kiya to humara kuch bhe nahi ho sakta please kuch na kuch karna chahiye
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We've now a very strong and logical stand on the basis of recent upgradation of clerical posts to file our case claiming BS-16 for stengrapers and 17 directly for APS
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ReplyDeleteAll stenographers and brothers kya hum bus yahan comments hi kartay rahain gay?
ReplyDeletewe have to fight for our rights....
Before 2007 Assistants were in BS-11 and Stenos were in Bs-12, Clerical staff in which Assistant fall gets promote two times and now Assistants are on Bs-16 while the stenos are on Bs-14, is this justice with Stenographers?
Hum sub jantay k stenographers sub say zayada kaam kartay, yahan tak k Secretaries, SS, AS, sub Officers k sath stenos hotay, Assistant jitna kaam kartay woh jantay sub....
So, it is my humble request to Khalid bhai and all my stenos to please move forward and do something. Now the time is in our hands, once time gone nothing wil be good for us.... so plz jaag jain ......
Ali Zeeshan
Stenographer (BS-14)
kia kar saktay hain bhai jan
Deletei agree with you brothers
Deletei am Stenographer in Lahore, Punjab or KPK walay bhaion say request hai k agar woh summary put up karwain, steno k promotion ki, point ooper jo btaaya menay wohi dain k agar Assistant 2 times promote ho sakta to stenographer kyun nahi?
ReplyDeleteSteno ko bhi Bs-16 dain.. PA/SSS/APS ko BS-17 or PS ko BS-18, this step should be taken, so that injustice could be end....
good suggestion ali bhai. ap to Lahore main hain. ap Chief Minister, Chief Secretary sab Lahore main hain ap sub kuch kar saktay hain. Sub stenographers ka faida ho jay ga
DeleteMr. Ali kindly tell me ur cell no for detail discussion.
DeleteThanks
Ansar Mahmood Stenographer BPS14
good suggestion ali bhai. kindly movement taiz kar dain takay hamian bhe 16 mil jay ap to lahore main hain kindly Chief Minister, Chief Secretary sab ko lakhian please
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ReplyDeleteDear Khalid Bhai and other respected members of the Association; Aslam-o-Alakum,
ReplyDeleteKind consideration of the Honourable Prime Minister, Islamic Republic of Pakistan is very respectfully concentrated towards an injustice committed by the learned Ministry of Finance, Punjab as well as Pakistan whereby they have upgraded posts of Junior Clerks/Senior Clerks/Office Assistants and Office Superintendents from BS-5 to BS-11, BS-07 to BS-14, BS-11 to BS-16 and BS-16 to BS-17 even in shortest time span i.e. 8 years. We very respectfully produce a comparison chart which will, of course, ease the competent authority to ascertain the up gradation of pay scales made since the year 1987.
SR. NO: NAME OF THE POST. PAY SCALE IN THE YEAR 1987. PAY SCALE IN THE YEAR 2007. PAY SCALE IN THE YEAR 2015.
1 Junior Clerk 05 07 11
2 Senior Clerk 07 09 14
3 Head Clerk/Office Assistant. 11 14 16
The following chart is helpful to judge up-gradation of Stenographers/Personal Assistants and Private Secretaries made since the year 1987.
SR. NO: NAME OF THE POST. PAY SCALE IN THE YEAR 1987. JUSTICE DEMANDS PAY SCALE IN THE YEAR 2007. PAY SCALE SHOULD BE IN THE YEAR 2015. REMARKS
1 Stenographer 12 14 18 Precedent is made to upgradation of Clerical staff.
2 Personal Assistant 15 17 21 “
3 Private Secretary 16 18 22 “
Sir, the decision of up-gradation made by the respected Ministry of Finance of Pakistan as well as all the provinces falling under administrative jurisdiction of Islamic Republic of Pakistan is quite beyond our thoughts as it does not fulfill the requirements of justice. A Junior Clerk have been uplifted 6 stages, Senior Clerk 7 stages while Office Assistant/Head Clerk 6 stages even in 08 years (from 2007 to 2015) but contrary to that, a simple Stenographer who was one stage up (in pay scale) than the office Assistant/Head Clerk as in the year 2007 Office Assistant was in BS-11 while Stenographer in BS-12 but in accordance with the above referred Notification, the Office Assistant/Head Clerks have been boosted up in BS-16 but a Stenographer who was senior to him, is still working in BS-14 (2 stages less than the Head Clerks/Office Assistants). Can this exercise of up-gradation be call “undue blessing” or it does fall in any other sort of relief? The respected stakeholders can explain better to the Hon’ble Prime Minister of Pakistan regarding up-gradation of different cadres made since the year 1987.
Sir, another irony of fate is that; the work of Stenographer/Personal Assistant and Private Secretary is ultra-laborious which usually causes impairment of our lungs by way of severe tuberculosis because we have to depress different keys more than 400 times per minute to find out typing speed of 50 or 60 words per minute. No category other than Stenographer, Personal Assistant and Private Secretary accomplish such a heavy assignment but only the “Construction labour” performs such heavy type of tasks but he does not depress any key in such a speed.
Sir, in the above circumstances, we have deep concern (hmen dukh sirf iss bat ka hey k) that; Clerks are being upgraded frequently/without any lawful reason but the other categories i.e. Stenographer, Personal Assistant and Private Secretary are neglected all the ways of life. Therefore, justice demands up gradation of different categories at par considering their capability, property of knowledge towards the position he/she is occupying. Otherwise, we will see the junior persons coming-in as BOSSES carrying ultra-upper pay scales and we will perform our functions under their administrative command despite the facts that we were initially recruited as Stenographers (BS-12), Personal Assistants (BS-15) and Private Secretaries (BS-16) and the gentlemen being upgraded ultra-rapidly were recruited as Junior Clerks in BS-05.
i agree with you brother
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DeleteYes I agree with above narrated para
DeleteDear Khalid Bhai, Kindly write down your cell number because entire community of Stenographers/Personal Assistants and Private Secretaries want to have been contacted with your goodself. It will be an honour for all of us to speak and discuss the issues with learned President of our association so that we could be able to get the grievances redressed as well by putting the same in kind notice of stakeholders of the state. Thanks. Rana Tariq Mehmood, Personal Assistant, MDA, Multan Cell: 0300-6385835. rtmmda@gmail.com
ReplyDeleteNo latest update of time scale or promotion?
ReplyDeleteApplication regarding upgradation of Stenographers, Personal Assistants/Assistant Private Secretaries, Private Secretaries/Senior Private Secretaries has been sent to Prime Minister of Pakistan for consideration.
ReplyDeleteSalam, The application has been sent to PM as desired by Rana Tariq, but u did not inform through Finance or any other department please inform to forum. Please update the latest information.
DeleteMunir Qureshi.
APS
Khalid Bhai ny Cell # nahi batana forum sy number ly k bachiyan tang krti hen
ReplyDeleteBhai logo jo krna hy kr lo kuch b ni hony wala, stenos community kbi b assistant sy senior to kia BS-16 b ni pa skti
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ReplyDeleteDear Sajid Mehmood Sahib, GOD may bless you and your family. We don't want to compete any particular community but the issue is that; we want our legitimate rights either by making requests to the learned Prime Minister or through any other stakeholder. It is admitted that Office Assistants are highly qualified community but "Truth does not change anywhere". Therefore, I would request not to criticize among each other. In this way, we will really go-off from the original track. I pray for your long life. May Allah bless all of us. Aamin
ReplyDeleteDear Brother Rana Tariq I agree with your comments & arguments. But the problem is that we are not united & sincere with our cadre / steno community since & before 23-12-2011. Last up-gradation was the achievement of Khalid Bhai with our minor contribution. But this time Khalid Bhai not taking interest in our forum for the up-gradation of our community steno, APS, PS, SPS. I will request on this forum of all my colleagues to join the hands of Khalid Bhai for the struggle of steno community, If you want to achieve the target/goals.
ReplyDeleteaj kal to Mr. Rahim Bakhsh sahib bhi manzare aam p anay say dertay hain, sir koi punjab stenos ki koi latest information to day dain
ReplyDeleteAOA, we APS should effort for grant of BPS-17 nor did effort for suprintendent-17 if we avail the chance to superintendent we will junior most in the category of superintendent, we should effort for private secretary or sr.private secretary, because our the same case for up-gradation/time scale. So, we will unite and struggle for the grant of BPS-17 for APS.
ReplyDeleteMunir Qureshi
Assistant Private Secretary.
Governments of KPK, Balochistan and now Punjab has upgraded the posts of Clerks Cadre as:
ReplyDeleteJr. Clerk from BS7 to BS11
Sr. Clerk from BS9 to BS14
Assistant from BS14 to BS16
Superintendent from BS16 to BS17
It is discrimination for Steno Typist of BS14 as the Senior Clerk has also upgraded in BS14. Now no difference between Senior Clerk and Steno Typist. A matric based Senior Clerk, no type, no computer, no shorthand, no telephone attendance become equal to Steno Typist while Steno Typist is based of F.A. with Shorthand, Type/Computer, telephone attendance and personal work of immediate Boss. Its mean there is no value of Shorthand.
Now, Stenographer cade move efforts for upgradation in BS16, BS17 and BS18.
Muhammad Shafique Mughal
Senior Scale Stenographer
WASA (LDA) Lahore
but nobody is giving 17 to APS
Deletebut nobody is giving 17 to APS
DeleteGovernments of KPK, Balochistan and now Punjab has upgraded the posts of Clerks Cadre as:
ReplyDeleteJr. Clerk from BS7 to BS11
Sr. Clerk from BS9 to BS14
Assistant from BS14 to BS16
Superintendent from BS16 to BS17
It is discrimination for Steno Typist of BS14 as the Senior Clerk has also upgraded in BS14. Now no difference between Senior Clerk and Steno Typist. A matric based Senior Clerk, no type, no computer, no shorthand, no telephone attendance become equal to Steno Typist while Steno Typist is based of F.A. with Shorthand, Type/Computer, telephone attendance and personal work of immediate Boss. Its mean there is no value of Shorthand.
Now, Stenographer cade move efforts for upgradation in BS16, BS17 and BS18.
Muhammad Shafique Mughal
Senior Scale Stenographer
WASA (LDA) Lahore
SALAM
ReplyDeleteDEAR SHAFIQUE BHAI
MAY! ALMIGHTY ALLAH BLESS ON YOU AND OUR COMMUNITY. IT IS INDEED THAT WE ALL STENO'S ARE SUFFERING UNDER DISCRIMINATION. NOW A DAYS I AM LOOKING AT THIS FORUM THAT SOME COLLEAGUES ARE SUGGESTING THEIR GOLDEN IDEAS PERTAIN TO OUR RIGHTS AND UP GRADATION ETC. BUT IT THINK THAT WE HAVE TO GO FORWARD COLLECTIVELY. MOREOVER SINCE LONG KHALID BHAI IS ALSO UNDER QUITE SILENT MODE. WOULD THAT HE MAY TAKE INITIATIVE ONCE AGAIN ENERGETIC EFFORT AND MARVELOUS ACHIEVEMENT. (AAMEEN)
AFZAL SHAH SUKKUR SINDH
dhund or sardi bohat ziada hay is liy sary steno colleagues gaib (chup) ho gay han
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ReplyDeleteshafique mughal sb kia hal hae. apna contact no.to send kro.Rai ABdul Shakoor Shaheen Kharal stenographer DZC Bahawalpur
ReplyDeleteDZC stands for what????
DeleteDEAR STENOS COMMUNITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteJAGO ........JAGO...........JAGO...........JAGO......
AAB NI TU KHBI NI.............AAB NI TU KHBI NI
soi hoy log kbi ni jagty!!
DeleteSalam to all my colleagues. I try my best to persue the case but due to some problems unable to move the case in the court. Wait for a few days I am also waiting for the arrears of a hiring case when finalized then I will be in the court for Bps 17 for APA and 16 for steno
ReplyDeleteWednesday, 22 February 2012
DeleteSTENOS UPGRADATION CLARIFICATIONS FROM ESTABLISHMENT DIVISION
Different Ministries/Divisions/Departments etc have sought clarification on the following points from Establishment Division.
i) The existing Stenographers/Stenotypists already working in BS-16 and BS-14 from 1983 (rendering 30 years service in BS-16 and BS-14) have been deprived to consider/give any promotion benefit, whereas they have only one to two years service to attain the age of superannuation, how they would get promotion benefit of Private Secretary (BS-17/BS-18)? The existing Stenographers/Stenotypist working in BS-16/14 may be upgraded in BS-17/15 one time basis.
ii) In provincial Government as well as in most of the Universities Stenotypist posts is of BS-12, Stenographers post is of BPS-15, while most of the Private Secretary's post which carries BPS-16 will be upgraded or otherwise?
iii) Stenographers working in BS-16 may be granted time scale BS-17 on the condition of three years service in BS-16. The newly/upgraded Stenographers (BS-16) may also be granted time scale BS-17 on completion of three years service in BS-16.
iv) Whether Project Staff is also entitled to the benefit of upgradation.
v) Due to the Devolution some of Federal Departments are devolved and their staff adjusted in Provincial Government on deputation basis they are also entitle for upgradation?
vi) On 23/12/2011 BS-18 awarded to Private Secretary on one time basis. Taking the benefit of the length of service O.M if they complete 12 years service they are entitled for BS-19 as Senior Private Secretary?
vii) Under whose jurisdication the selection of candidates against the post of Stenographer (BS-16), for initial appointment will fall; whether FPSC or DSC as generally the posts in BPS-16 (Gazetted ) and above fall under the purview of FPSC.
The Establishment Division is requested to give their advice on the above mentioned points/issues.
Assalam o alaikum..... would u khalid bhai may very kindly be in field..... Thousands of eyes are hopping to have you in field.... May we strieve for getting upgradation of bps 14 stenotypest to 16 as well as stenographers and aps working in bps16 to 17 on the basis of current blessing and promotions of scales... The ground is suffice for claiming our upgradation that we being neglected can never serve with energetic devotions and we was appointed at a senior post than that of our brothers who was appointed in bps5 now will be able to retire in a guzzeted scale i.e bps16 .... and we who was appointed in bps14 and 16 having no prmo channel are being deprived of our rightful promotions.... its a call of time to promote us in bps 17 and further to have a promo channel of upgradation at least to bps 20
DeleteALHAMDULILAH, kam is kam Khalid Bhai nay comments to dia wo bhi latest news k sath
ReplyDeleteWe all the community say welcome back between us you Khalid Bahi and ensure you our full cooperation in any ways. Your above message is a hope for us. Stay blessed.
ReplyDeleteRESPECTED KHALID BHAI ASSALAM-O-ALAIKUM
ReplyDeleteWHAT IS THE STATUS OF THESE TWO CASES.
KIND REGARDS,
ZULFIQAR AWAN
Thursday, April 30, 2015
APS TIME SCALE BS-17 WITH ALL BENEFITS
SUMMARY IS IN PROCESS IN CONTROLLER GENERAL OF ACCOUNTS FOR ONWARD SUBMISSION TO FINANCE DIVISION ISLAMABAD
Wednesday, April 22, 2015
10% QUOTA CASE
NEXT DATE 28.04.2015 IS FIXED FOR HEARING AT ISLAMABAD HIGH COURT ISLAMABAD......
Khalid Bhai medan main agaye ha Insha Allah Stenographer ko B-16 milega thanks Khalid Bhai
ReplyDeleteFemale stenographers are also ready for protest.
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ReplyDeleteStenographers having 14 Scale can protest as Assistants have got two times promotion from 11 to 14 and now from 14 to 16.
ReplyDeleteStenographers having 14 Scale can protest as Assistants have got two times promotion from 11 to 14 and now from 14 to 16.
ReplyDeleteRespected Madam,
ReplyDeleteWe have to coordinate with Khalid Bhai on this issue. Further we can get our rights only one way and that way is "COURT OF LAW" because Govt.of Pakistan will not give us our rights as per our past experience.In this connection we start movement for collection of funds from our all colleagues and this is the difficult task for us because we want only benefit without spending of single pine.
This is the big task and this task can only achieve if we will become united and join the hands of Khalid Bhai.
Khalid Bhai have power and confidence to fight for our right and he will do each and every thing for us but everybody from us will financial contribute for this big task.
May God give courage to achieve this goal.
Zulfiqar Ali Awan
A.P.S.
Exactly we all are with Khalid Bhai. Any kind of support needed we all are here.
DeleteAssalam o alaikum.....May you bro please contact at my cell 03404919976.... I m working in district Mandi Bahauddin as stenographer in bps 16.... I would like to convince my collegues to share hands with all of you with a huge consideration.... yet I am unaware whether there is any claim for the stenographers woking in bps16 to 17 and onward to form any promo channel for the same..... waiting for your kind consideration
DeleteThanx for anticioation
DeleteDear colleagues, we should efforts for grant of BPS-17 like PS before announcing the next budget May-June-16, otherwise we left behind with other category becuase the Finance Minister will announce the other category of post. We should sincere and effort and contribution for aforesaid purpose and again writ in high court/FST.
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ReplyDeleteAoA. khalid bhai no responce is received as yet from your side b coz all steno community is looking at you n hoping that u will b successed to give them upgradation as all the other posts have been upgraded recently except steno community.plz plz do something for stenotypist n APS. regards, Nadeem Stenotypist
ReplyDeletehi, i m also curious to know wether any progress for APS and steno typist? its vry must becoz everywhere our rights have been snatched
ReplyDeleteVery right. Agreed wd MR.malik arshad
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ReplyDeleteplease take up the matter of time scale. it is very important of all APS
Upgradation in 17 is also better option
ReplyDeleteALL OF YOU REQUESTED TO START MOVEMENT FOR COLLECTION OF FUNDS...PLZ... I TALKED TO KHALID BHAI ...HE IS READY TO FILE THE CASE FOR APS/STENO TIME SCALE IF WE WILL CONTRIBUTE THE FUND....
ReplyDeletePLEASE ALL OF U REQUESSTED TO KINDLY START MOVEMENT OF COLLECTION OF FUNDS...PLZ........PLZ.............WE SHOULD NOT WASTE THE TIME....
ZULFIQAR AWAN..............