Good news,thanks Khalid Bhai in time informing about the situation. May allah help us. These all things should be done in one step. The upgradation increment as verdict of Supreme Court and FST, Lahore is still awaited. The speed of implementation of upgradation in provincial level is very slow, uptill, today not a single province has implemented. Only in punjab case is in progress as per source.
Thanks Bahi Riaz. As u have incorporated the text on forum that "stenographers in BPS-16" is those who are before 23-12-2011 or after 23-12-2011 for one time scale up case is in process in Establishment Division. Please clarify that process of case of time scale of stenographers BPS-16. Is the post is before or after the upgradation of stenographers in BPS-16 from 23-12-2011.
Your tireless efforts are bringing fruit. BS-17 for Stenographers already in BS-16 is just right reward/right. But for Stenographers who are in BS-15, as you tried initially BS-17 should also be given which was later on given as BS-16 by Establishment Division. If BS-17 direct is not looks in grasp then a time scale for some period i.e. 3 to 5 years may be ensured for new BS-16 Stenographers as given to our PS brothers. We should also do our best to re-introduce Selection Grade for Stenographers so that they can enjoy BS-17, their just right.
First I hope you all will be fine and secondly I am very glad to see on forum that the upgradation case of BPS-16 is in progress and hope that the present stenographers who are in BPS-16 will enjoy their fruitful position in BPS-17.
Yes, all the stenographers already in B-16 will be able to enjoy inshallah B-17, if it is notified. It should be implementead on stenotypist already in B-14. Sabir Chauhan
Dear Mughal Sahib and other provincial colleagues, I know due to non-implementation on upgradation of steno in provinces, u and like u others as upset, but believe on GOD, who is very gracious,merciful and helpful. and will never leave us alone. Comment on forum by open hearted,keeping in view the norms, so the other colleagues be listen our voice, how we are treating by bureaucracy, weather we deserved as they are doing with us in implementing the upgradation.It is comprehended that non of us can give the help of media. This is a documentary battle and documents are available and in our favour. I hope inshallah we will achieve our goal very soon.
Thanks Khalid Bhai, your appearance on forum is not less than a MOON. Recently appeared moon is very blesing, hence we must hope for the best in this holy month.Your appearance build/give us incourage, therefore, after giving any new development,please give your name at the bottom. Dear have you ever discussed the upgradation on any provincial autahority, particularly Khyber pakhtunkhwa province from where you belong, if yes, what reaction on implementation and what is situation there?.
The Provincial Government of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa is willing to implement the Orders of Finance Division. The case is in process in Establishment Department. After the approval of the Establishment Department the is to be sent to Finance Department.
Hope you will be fine. In Daily Jang a news was published that in CDA, Islamabad PS are working with junior officers ranging from BS-17 to BS-20, whereas only BS-21 officers can be given a PS. It would be a great benefit if your goodself try your best to lower down entitlement of officers for PS from BS-21 to B-20. This way here in POF our lot of Stenographers brothers can be benefited and get promotion upto to BS-19 and of course all others government and provincial departments as well. In POF, a huge organization of 30,000 + employees, we only have one BS-21 officer and thus only one PS seat. Whereas here we have more than 35 + Stenographers.
Hope you will consider my proposal sympathetically and use your good linkages to lower down entitlement scale for PS from BS-21 to BS-20.
Director General, Geological Survey of Pakistan is in BPS-21 and 4 posts are in BPS-20, but there is a single of even PA. It is on the record that there is no of PA in Pakistan. Safdar Bhai, this is Pakistani bureaucracy,who intend to eat every thing and nothing for others headach.We are so helpless that can not even get our right how, it is possible to help those who does not think even human being. Hence we should first work for our right i.e. upgradation implementation in all respect and all kind of stenos. At present, I would like to say that only the officers in Audit and Accounts are helpful and helping their employees, remaining are killing time by killing their subordinates. perhaps you will not agree with my comment.This is my experience not listening news
I appreciate your comments, I have given a proposal with the aim that it may help all PAs. We should work on it, this way by reducing the entitlement limit for PS from BS-21 to BS-20, many PAs/PS will benefit and it will open road for further promotion upto BS-19. We should try to achieve this task, in my opinion, it is not too difficult but we should remain united.
Hay Safdar dear, thanks, so far as your proposal is concerned, I have written proof from Ministry of Petroleum that there is no post of PA in Pakistan and post of PS is only for administrative deptt. Technical deptt. are not provided PS post for Grade-20 Officers. The bureaucracy in Pakistan is very strong, they can do what they want. Do you know our demand was B-12/14 to B16, B-15/16 to B-17 and B-17 to B-18. But they did not do so and orders B-12to 14,B-15 to B-16 and B-17 to upto B-19 and ignored B-14 and B-16 and given B-19 without our demand. There is no question of achieving goals, no rule regulation in Pakistan only might is right.Individually, we con 't even give interview or press conference to media, for that purpose we must united with plate form than every thing is possible.I know some peoples who are not taking part in this forum because, they have been fad-up due to non-implementation on upgradation in letter and spirit particularly in provinces, only movement is in Federal department
Hay Safdar dear, thanks, so far as your proposal is concerned, I have written proof from Ministry of Petroleum that there is no post of PA in Pakistan and post of PS is only for administrative deptt. Technical deptt. are not provided PS post for Grade-20 Officers. The bureaucracy in Pakistan is very strong, they can do what they want. Do you know our demand was B-12/14 to B16, B-15/16 to B-17 and B-17 to B-18. But they did not do so and orders B-12to 14,B-15 to B-16 and B-17 to upto B-19 and ignored B-14 and B-16 and given B-19 without our demand. There is no question of achieving goals, no rule regulation in Pakistan only might is right.Individually, we con 't even give interview or press conference to media, for that purpose we must united with plate form than every thing is possible.I know some peoples who are not taking part in this forum because, they have been fad-up due to non-implementation on upgradation in letter and spirit particularly in provinces, only movement is in Federal department
I have agreed with the comments of Mr.Sabir Chauhan,our demand is B-12/14 TO B-16 and B-15/16 To B-17,but bureaucracy did not to do so and approved upgradation against the natural justice B-12 To 14 AND B-15 To 16,our some of colleques have already moveover in B-16 from 1.1.2001,and back reverted to B-15,in accordance with the notification issued by the Govt:which is amended illegally services rules under the supervision of Dictator Gen:RTD:Mushraf who has not a constitutional authority and he has no right to make amendment in fundamental rules which is framed by the constituional assembly in Pakistan in 1973, in which authority he has amended that is the question and no body at that time who has knocked the door of the honourable court for their own eligitimate rights.
Hello Colleagues, this time all the Senior Stenographers in Federal Government office are not benefitted even a panny from the upgradation and likewise, the stenos of provincial including juniors are still waiting concisiouly and looking for an early implementation on upgradation. Hence this is for using individual influances if, available in media or any opposition MNA etc. who will put our voice on AIR. I put these things on President Websit and awarenessStream.com (PM Website), but no reply has so for been received from their end. I think only few stenos are touch with this forum otherwise no one is even reads it. Our problems are still alive as previous before 23.12.2011 and no change in s tatus and financially.
Dear Colleague, I wrote to President,Prime Minister,Secretary finance and Establshment via E-Mail for implementation of FST decision for through out pakistan and for already in B-14 and B-16, but till today all in vain. It seems that every body is fixed in freezers from both end Government and ourself. Now theonly is to pray allah who never remembers to his creaturs. Sabir Chauhan Senior Stenographer
After the elapsed the 6 months,not a only news about stenographers already in B-16 is appeared on any platform and no one is even commenting on this behavior of Government which is very dangerous for this community. No benefit is given to the stenographers already in B-16 and Stenotypists in B-14 by virtue of selection grade. Alas we are how much selfish
Good news,thanks Khalid Bhai in time informing about the situation. May allah help us. These all things should be done in one step. The upgradation increment as verdict of Supreme Court and FST, Lahore is still awaited.
ReplyDeleteThe speed of implementation of upgradation in provincial level is very slow, uptill, today not a single province has implemented. Only in punjab case is in progress as per source.
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ReplyDeleteThanks Bahi Riaz. As u have incorporated the text on forum that "stenographers in BPS-16" is those who are before 23-12-2011 or after 23-12-2011 for one time scale up case is in process in Establishment Division. Please clarify that process of case of time scale of stenographers BPS-16. Is the post is before or after the upgradation of stenographers in BPS-16 from 23-12-2011.
Dear Khalid Sahib
ReplyDeleteYour tireless efforts are bringing fruit. BS-17 for Stenographers already in BS-16 is just right reward/right. But for Stenographers who are in BS-15, as you tried initially BS-17 should also be given which was later on given as BS-16 by Establishment Division. If BS-17 direct is not looks in grasp then a time scale for some period i.e. 3 to 5 years may be ensured for new BS-16 Stenographers as given to our PS brothers. We should also do our best to re-introduce Selection Grade for Stenographers so that they can enjoy BS-17, their just right.
With kind regards.
(SAFDAR)
POF Wah Cantt
Dear all Colleagues/ Mr. Khalid
ReplyDeleteFirst I hope you all will be fine and secondly I am very glad to see on forum that the upgradation case of BPS-16 is in progress and hope that the present stenographers who are in BPS-16 will enjoy their fruitful position in BPS-17.
With best regards.
Yasir Hameed
Stenographer
Yes, all the stenographers already in B-16 will be able to enjoy inshallah B-17, if it is notified. It should be implementead on stenotypist already in B-14.
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Dear Mughal Sahib and other provincial colleagues, I know due to non-implementation on upgradation of steno in provinces, u and like u others as upset, but believe on GOD, who is very gracious,merciful and helpful. and will never leave us alone. Comment on forum by open hearted,keeping in view the norms, so the other colleagues be listen our voice, how we are treating by bureaucracy, weather we deserved as they are doing with us in implementing the upgradation.It is comprehended that non of us can give the help of media. This is a documentary battle and documents are available and in our favour. I hope inshallah we will achieve our goal very soon.
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INSHALLAH
DeleteThanks Khalid Bhai, your appearance on forum is not less than a MOON. Recently appeared moon is very blesing, hence we must hope for the best in this holy month.Your appearance build/give us incourage, therefore, after giving any new development,please give your name at the bottom. Dear have you ever discussed the upgradation on any provincial autahority, particularly Khyber pakhtunkhwa province from where you belong, if yes, what reaction on implementation and what is situation there?.
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The Provincial Government of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa is willing to implement the Orders of Finance Division. The case is in process in Establishment Department. After the approval of the Establishment Department the is to be sent to Finance Department.
DeleteDear Khalid Bhai,
ReplyDeleteHope you will be fine. In Daily Jang a news was published that in CDA, Islamabad PS are working with junior officers ranging from BS-17 to BS-20, whereas only BS-21 officers can be given a PS. It would be a great benefit if your goodself try your best to lower down entitlement of officers for PS from BS-21 to B-20. This way here in POF our lot of Stenographers brothers can be benefited and get promotion upto to BS-19 and of course all others government and provincial departments as well. In POF, a huge organization of 30,000 + employees, we only have one BS-21 officer and thus only one PS seat. Whereas here we have more than 35 + Stenographers.
Hope you will consider my proposal sympathetically and use your good linkages to lower down entitlement scale for PS from BS-21 to BS-20.
Regards.
SAFDAR
Stenographer, Wah Cantt
Director General, Geological Survey of Pakistan is in BPS-21 and 4 posts are in BPS-20, but there is a single of even PA. It is on the record that there is no of PA in Pakistan. Safdar Bhai, this is Pakistani bureaucracy,who intend to eat every thing and nothing for others headach.We are so helpless that can not even get our right how, it is possible to help those who does not think even human being. Hence we should first work for our right i.e. upgradation implementation in all respect and all kind of stenos. At present, I would like to say that only the officers in Audit and Accounts are helpful and helping their employees, remaining are killing time by killing their subordinates. perhaps you will not agree with my comment.This is my experience not listening news
ReplyDeleteSabir Chauhan
Senior Stenographer
Dear Sabir,
ReplyDeleteI appreciate your comments, I have given a proposal with the aim that it may help all PAs. We should work on it, this way by reducing the entitlement limit for PS from BS-21 to BS-20, many PAs/PS will benefit and it will open road for further promotion upto BS-19. We should try to achieve this task, in my opinion, it is not too difficult but we should remain united.
Regards.
Safdar
Hay Safdar dear, thanks, so far as your proposal is concerned, I have written proof from Ministry of Petroleum that there is no post of PA in Pakistan and post of PS is only for administrative deptt. Technical deptt. are not provided PS post for Grade-20 Officers. The bureaucracy in Pakistan is very strong, they can do what they want. Do you know our demand was B-12/14 to B16, B-15/16 to B-17 and B-17 to B-18. But they did not do so and orders B-12to 14,B-15 to B-16 and B-17 to upto B-19 and ignored B-14 and B-16 and given B-19 without our demand. There is no question of achieving goals, no rule regulation in Pakistan only might is right.Individually, we con 't even give interview or press conference to media, for that purpose we must united with plate form than every thing is possible.I know some peoples who are not taking part in this forum because, they have been fad-up due to non-implementation on upgradation in letter and spirit particularly in provinces, only movement is in Federal department
ReplyDeleteSabir Chauhan
Sabir Chauhan
Hay Safdar dear, thanks, so far as your proposal is concerned, I have written proof from Ministry of Petroleum that there is no post of PA in Pakistan and post of PS is only for administrative deptt. Technical deptt. are not provided PS post for Grade-20 Officers. The bureaucracy in Pakistan is very strong, they can do what they want. Do you know our demand was B-12/14 to B16, B-15/16 to B-17 and B-17 to B-18. But they did not do so and orders B-12to 14,B-15 to B-16 and B-17 to upto B-19 and ignored B-14 and B-16 and given B-19 without our demand. There is no question of achieving goals, no rule regulation in Pakistan only might is right.Individually, we con 't even give interview or press conference to media, for that purpose we must united with plate form than every thing is possible.I know some peoples who are not taking part in this forum because, they have been fad-up due to non-implementation on upgradation in letter and spirit particularly in provinces, only movement is in Federal department
ReplyDeleteSabir Chauhan
I have agreed with the comments of Mr.Sabir Chauhan,our demand is B-12/14 TO B-16 and B-15/16 To B-17,but bureaucracy did not to do so and approved upgradation against the natural justice B-12 To 14 AND B-15 To 16,our some of colleques have already moveover in B-16 from 1.1.2001,and back reverted to B-15,in accordance with the notification issued by the Govt:which is amended illegally services rules under the supervision of Dictator Gen:RTD:Mushraf who has not a constitutional authority and he has no right to make amendment in fundamental rules which is framed by the constituional assembly in Pakistan in 1973, in which authority he has amended that is the question and no body at that time who has knocked the door of the honourable court for their own eligitimate rights.
ReplyDeleteHello Colleagues, this time all the Senior Stenographers in Federal Government office are not benefitted even a panny from the upgradation and likewise, the stenos of provincial including juniors are still waiting concisiouly and looking for an early implementation on upgradation. Hence this is for using individual influances if, available in media or any opposition MNA etc. who will put our voice on AIR. I put these things on President Websit and awarenessStream.com (PM Website), but no reply has so for been received from their end. I think only few stenos are touch with this forum otherwise no one is even reads it. Our problems are still alive as previous before 23.12.2011 and no change in s tatus and financially.
ReplyDeleteSabir Chauhan
Senior Stenographer
Dear Colleague, I wrote to President,Prime Minister,Secretary finance and Establshment via E-Mail for implementation of FST decision for through out pakistan and for already in B-14 and B-16, but till today all in vain. It seems that every body is fixed in freezers from both end Government and ourself. Now theonly is to pray allah who never remembers to his creaturs.
ReplyDeleteSabir Chauhan
Senior Stenographer
After the elapsed the 6 months,not a only news about stenographers already in B-16 is appeared on any platform and no one is even commenting on this behavior of Government which is very dangerous for this community. No benefit is given to the stenographers already in B-16 and Stenotypists in B-14 by virtue of selection grade. Alas we are how much selfish
ReplyDeleteSabir Chauhan