Dear Haji Khalid Bhai We all welcome to your good honour to come back to our sweet home Pakistan after performing "Hajj". Aap ko Bohat Bohat Haj Mubarik. Allah Aapko hamesha khush rakhay, aap ko sehat day, salamti ata farmay aur ham sab Zinda rahein to Islam par aur Moot aya to Iman k sath. Amin Once again Congratulation on your Hajj. Hamaray liay be dua karein k next year hamein be Allah Umrah/Hajj ki Tofeeq atta farmay. Amin
Khalid sb. Khalid Sb. May God (Allah) accept your Hajj and congratulate u on preforming the Hajj and come back and also congratulate to your family and parents. Thanks Munir Qureshi APS
bohat bohat mubarak ho, wahan say any k bad esay lgta hy jessay ham ujri dunya mein aa gaey hein, Allah Tala sab ko saadat nasib faramey ............ Aameen
AOA,APKO,HAJI HONAIN KI BOOTH BOOTH MUBARK QABOOL HOO,APP OFFICE ATTEND KAR RAHAY HAIN,YAA HOME PER HAIN MUTALAA FARMA KAR MASHKOOR FARMAIN TAAKAY ,APP KAY PASS ASKOON PERSONALLY MUBARK DAINAIN KAYLIAY.
THE PUNJAB MUHTISIB UPGRADED THE POST OF CLERICAL STAFF SINCE 2008 AT THE LEVEL OF HIGH COURT. THE STENOGRAPHER ALSO UPGRADED IN LHR HIGH COURT SINCE 2002 IN BPS-16 AND THEN BPS-17 THE STENOGRAPHERS ARE ALSO FILED THE CASE TO THE ABOVE MENTIONED AUTHORITY TO BE UPGRADED THE SAME POSTS IMMEDIATELY. THE STENOGRAPHERS ARE REQUESTED TO FILED THE CASE OF THE ABOVE MENTIONED COURT FOR UPGRADATED
May Allah accept your Haj. A lot of congratulations to you. Hope you have prayed for us and our community as well. Remember in your prayers. Khuda Haifrz, Thanks
Attention: Mr. Shafique Mughal Aslamo Alaikum Wa Rehmat Ullah!
First of all I congratulate Mr. Khalid Riaz for performing the sacred duty of Hajj. May Allah ACCEPT your Hajj.
Secondly I want to ask Mr. Shafique Mughal about our pre-mature increment case which is pending in finance department, government of Punjab since June 2013. Please inform about this update.
Dear Khald Bhai A.A. Meri aur tmam colleagues ki taraf se apko HAJJ ki sa'dat boht boht mubarak ho. Allah tmam sathio ko Hajj/UMRAH ki sa'dat se nawazney ki taufiq ata farmaye. Aameen.
Dear Haji Khalid Sb, Aap ko Bohat Bohat Haj Mubarik. May Allah accept your Hajj. Once again Congratulation on your Hajj. Hamaray liay be dua karein k next year hamein be Allah Umrah/Hajj ki Tofeeq atta farmay. Amin Tx
AOA,Deprived stenos ka kuch pata ni jab k baqi categories ko time scale mil chuka hay serf stenos baqi hain. Kia ka koi waris na hay.Khalid bhai ab in logon ki duain bhi lo ya in ko jawab do k ap apna khud kar lain, Kai dostoon k sms atay hain Khalid bhai sy prchain k kun deprived stenos ke time scale ni mil raha. Halan K PS kw 23.12.2011 sy usi O>M min mil gia tha. stenos ka kia qasoor hay. Please pehli fursat min is case ko take up krain.
Qabil Ihteram Chauhan sb 22.10.2013 ko Finance Division ne clarification issue ki ha jis ma clear likha ha k selection grade walon ko bhi pre-mature increment mile ga....... tu ab koi doubt nahi raha ...... Selection grade ko bhi financial benefit ho giya.......
We will discuss and talk a lot and that all afterwards, now the most important thing to do is to say you bohat bohat Hajj Mubarak. It is a special blessing of Almighty Allah on you to become Haji is such a young age. Allah ham sab ko apni rehmat ke saye me rakhe. Ameen
Attention: Mr. Shafique Mughal Aslamo Alaikum Wa Rehmat Ullah!
First of all I congratulate Mr. Khalid Riaz for performing the sacred duty of Hajj. May Allah ACCEPT your Hajj.
Secondly I want to ask Mr. Shafique Mughal about our pre-mature increment case which is pending in finance department, government of Punjab since June 2013. Please inform about this update.
The case of pre-mature increment is still pending in Finance Department and Secretary Finance still not sending the summary to Chief Minister for approval.
HAY MUGHAL SB.HOW ARE YOU, FST IS UNFUNCTIONAL DUE TO NON AVAILABILITYOF CHAIRMAN. HENCE CASE IS PENDING TILL FURTHER ORDERS.I WOULD LIKE TO SAY AGAIN THAT PLEASE TRY TO PUT THIS THRUGH ELECTRONIC MEDIA OTHERWISE THIS BUREACURCY WILL NEVER GIVE US OUR RIGHT LIKE OTHER CATEGORIES OF EMPLOYEES. ALL THE CLARIFICATIONS IN THIS REGARDS ARE IN OUR FAVOUR, EVEN THEN CLEAR ORDERS FOR TIME SCALE FROM 23.12.2011 IS NOT ISSUED BY THE FINANCE DIVISION.
Dear Chohan Sahib, some Stenographers holding Selection Grade in Faisalabad, Rajanpur, Bahawalpur etc. have filed compled before Provincial Ombudsman Punjab for upgradation of Stenographers w.e.f. 23.12.2011 and Ombudsman has sent the case to Secretary Finance Punjab for comments. Please pray for successful.
Hope all of you would be fine. Recently I think time scale has been given to accounts departments by the government, I do not why the same treatment is not being given to our cadre being the same nature case. In addition, Accounts deptt have been given up-gradation twice, once from 11 to 14 and then 14 to 16, they have been given back-date up-gradation too I think way back from 2007, thus they get a handsome amount as arrears for their up-gradation. In contrary to that we have not been given our due right we have been up-graded just for one scale from 15 to 16 by ignoring our demand of BS-17, we have not been given any back date promotion benefit also like w.e.f. 2007 like accounts deptt. I would like to draw kind attention of our great leader Haji Khalid Riaz to this aspect, if there is any such plan in his mind, or has he filed any petition for above mentioned issues, like for BS-17 for APS, back-date up-gradation for APS or time scale for APS. I would be highly thankful to him for up-dating us. Furthermore, it was learnt that special pay increase for APS was also under consideration, what ha
Khalid sb. Salam and all of this forum. Dear brother, The whole APS get the benefits from BPS-15 to 16 and PS also get the same benefit but time scale has been fixed for only PS. Due to getting the same benefit i.e time scale promoted as PS from BPS-17 to BPS-19 but the APS is still in BPS-16 (only one scale up-gradation) and there is no further promotion in BPS-17. It is my humble request to Mr. Khalid, Please do something for APS for timescale so that they get scale BPS-16 to BPS-18 through time scale. This will be a benefits for all of us. Please do efforts because we have wasted much time and most of our APS is going to retire. Thanks Munir Qureshi APS
thanks...... Time scale BPS-17 k liye upgradation date se kam az kam 3 saal tak intezar karna pare ga...... ta ke hamara case mature ho jai.... kiyon k hum 3 saal bad time scale 17 mang rahe hain.
Reference STAR RICE November 7, 2013 at 12:41 AM comments .Time scale BPS-17 k liye upgradation date se kam az kam 3 saal tak intezar karna pare ga...... ta ke hamara case mature ho jai.... kiyon k hum 3 saal bad time scale 17 mang rahe hain. Agar pehly say mojod stenos in B-16 aur B-14 walon k leya time scale mang lia jay aur ho jay tu B-16 mn any waly nay stenos kw asani ho jay gi jonhi un ki service 3 saal ho gi un ko B-17 mil jay ga wana pher case karny sy mazeed waqat lagy ga. likn agar pehly walon k leya koshash na krny ka program hay to alaida bat hay. samajhdari ki bat yehi hay k 23.12.2011 sy hi B-17 man liajay ta k 3 saal mukamal hony pr sab ke mil jay.
Dear Chohan Sahib, some Stenographers holding Selection Grade in Faisalabad, Rajanpur, Bahawalpur etc. have filed compled before Provincial Ombudsman Punjab for upgradation of Stenographers w.e.f. 23.12.2011 and Ombudsman has sent the case to Secretary Finance Punjab for comments. Please pray for successful. Said Stenographers have arranged sufficient funds for filing writ petition before Lahore High Court, if they could not obtain success from Ombudsman.
Dear Chohan Sahib, some Stenographers holding Selection Grade in Faisalabad, Rajanpur, Bahawalpur etc. have filed complaint before Provincial Ombudsman Punjab for upgradation of Stenographers w.e.f. 23.12.2011 and Ombudsman has sent the case to Secretary Finance Punjab for comments. Please pray for successful. Said Stenographers have arranged sufficient funds for filing writ petition before Lahore High Court, if they could not obtain success from Ombudsman.
Jo log pehle se BPS-16 ma they un k liye finance ne aik premature increment allowed kar diya ha..... ab unko bhi financial benefit ho giya ha.... 22.10.2013 ko clarification issue howi ha
Said notification is only grant of premature increment but not upgradation in next scale, Stenographers holding selection grade since so many years and they are deserve for upgradation in next grade, e.g. a Junior Stenographer holding selection grade in BS15, he should be upgraded in BS16 as time scale and holding Selection Grade 16, he should be upgraded in BS17. These Stenographers are in the age of superannuation.
Dear colleagues, on 23.12.2011 the PS already in B-17 have been given time scale one time and they granted B-18 having 3 years service, but the stenographers and stenotypist already in B-16 and B-14 have not given the same treatment which leads to descrimination/disparity.Pre-mature increment is also not given because, they were granted increment at the time whe they granted selection grade. whereas, selection grade was adjustment for seniors on the basis of a prescribed ratio, but the upgradation/promotion is a general orders for all incumbent of the upgraded posts. This clarification is also needed for those who are confused, by the CGA only because their accounts are direct nder CGA which are called departmentalized and under CGS. The Chief Accounts Officers are not ready to implement the orders of F.D. Or if any body has such clarificatgion issued by the CAO of any Department kindly put on the forum.
As per some Newspapers, Govt. has filed inter court appeal for review. According to previous record of this Govt.they will try to refuse to pay such allowance or keep it pending till new budget. May allah give them courage to help employees in these hard days where prices of commodites are flying to catch the sky due their wrong policies and mis-management.
Said notification is only grant of premature increment but not upgradation in next scale, Stenographers holding selection grade since so many years and they are deserve for upgradation in next grade, e.g. a Junior Stenographer holding selection grade in BS15, he should be upgraded in BS16 as time scale and holding Selection Grade 16, he should be upgraded in BS17. These Stenographers are in the age of superannuation.
Reference STAR RICENovember 7, 2013 at 12:41 AM Time scale BPS-17 k liye upgradation date se kam az kam 3 saal tak intezar karna pare ga...... ta ke hamara case mature ho jai.... kiyon k hum 3 saal bad time scale 17 mang rahe hain. Agar deprived stenos k leya B-17as time scale is approved with 3 year's condition it will be useful for newly upgraded in B-16 when they jcomplete 3 years service. If the case is started after 3 years, it will take more time and delay in grant of B-17. So, it is suggested that deprived stenos case from 23.12.2011 may be taken up with the finance division as establishment division has no opojection for granting B-17 to deprived stenos.
Sir what is the status of 10% Promotion Quota of Stenographers (APS) as Suprintendent case which was pending in Islamabad High Court for a long time...
What is the current postion of """""""4 TIER FORMULA FOR PROMOTION OF ALL CIVIL SERVANTS OF FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, 4 TIER FORMULA FOR ALL CIVIL SERVANTS. CASE IN PROCESS"""""
Khalid bahi, salam and all of this forum, the KPK (high court) up-graded the superintendent from BPS-16-17 and before this the establishment division already given the suggestion/opinion to the M/o. Finance for up-gradation of BPS-16-17 of Supdt. Now, it is clear the in the whole the superintendent will get the BPS-16 to 17. I hope the M/o. Finance will issue the same to all province. On the other hand, in Education department time scale formula will introduced and every body specially clerical staffs get the same benefit and promoted from BPS-07 to BPS-16 (on basis of length of service). The supdt. will also get the benefit of BPS-16 to 17 but APS in hope for time scale of BPS-17. Through following example. We can get registered the writ in the Court. 1. PS (time scale awarded) 2. Clerical staff (time scale awarded) 3. Superintendent (time scale for completion of 5-years Service). Time scale is not allowed for APS. We should try and without delay to submit the writ in the Court/FST and to get the same benefit it will take 1-year. Please to do something for all. Our Prayers are with you. Thanks Munir Qureshi APS
Very important point raised by our brother Mr. Munir Qureshi, in my opinion only APS are the victimized class who did not get their due share from up-gradation, instead of its actual demand of BS-18, they have been granted only BS-16 that too with no further promotion chances, we are entangled in a closed street now, it is painful but it is the brutal truth sir. Now we must set another goal for us and try to get at least time scale for APS at all costs and that too very briskly. Clerical cadre is consisting of those people who are less competent and despite their best efforts could not become PA/APS/PS but it is very strange that people who are less competent are getting benefits but on the other hand people who passed in their respective fields found themselves at the losing end, this practice need to be stopped sir. Another way to get BS-17 at a fast track is to try to restore the selection grade facility for APS, this way maximum of our brothers can go to BS-17. Another very important point is that recently computer allowance has been granted for teachers and technicians who work in Labs of education deptt, but despite I know sheer hard work of our great brother Mr. Khalid, the computer allowance has not so far been approved for APS who round the clock work on computers and nor the special PA @ Rs. 320/- per month has been enhanced for APS. I request our brother to kindly do excel its efforts to get our genuine rights, Mr. Khalid was the man who made it all possible but sorry to say that APS could not get their right share and instead our P.S have benefited the most.
Hay colleagues, please read my comments dated 17.11.2013 above which exactly leads to our demand. If we succeed to get apprjoval for deprived stenos it will be easy to it's implementation towards newly upgraded stenos. We must not waid for completion of 3 years as statead by Khalid bhai. If we wait for 3 years then god forbad we lost our temper and courts and finance division will not listen to us and refused to give time scale with the single stroke of pen.
In terms of financial powers delegated by the Prime Minister of Pakistan vide Establishment Division's Letter No. 3-1/2006-T-V dated 21-09-2011 and FPS Notification No. F.9/6/2002-Estt-(Vol-II) dated 27-09-2011, the Chairman, Federal Public Service Commission has up-graded the following posts alongwith the incumbents w.e.f. 22-11-2012 as under: if this has been done.......... then Telephone Operator BPS-7 to BPS-14 Library Assistant BPS-7 to BPS-14 Secruity Supervisor BPS-11 to BPS-14 Draftsman Cum Artist BPS-11 to BPS-16 then....will steno-typists have not right to upgrade? recently FPSC, upgraded their employees by the huge difference, but steno typist has just got 02 grade up.. Dear Khalid sb, pl pl do something about our carieer even PIPFA exam has hold ban? where we are sir? this message for also my steno's brother... Regards
All Ministries/Divisions/Departments are therefore advised to initiate action to upgrade/redesignate the existing professional/technical posts of Librarians and to amend their relevant recruitment rules so as to bring the same in conformity with above provisions of the approved Summary. It may, however, be clarified that the upgradation of post implies abolition of the existing post and creation of a new post higher grade. Upgradation of post does not mean automatic upgradation of its incumbent. Appointment to the upgraded post will have to be made in the manner prescribed for the post under the existing rules. If a post is upgraded with immediate effect, the incumbent would be left without any post (in his pay scale) until he is approved for appointment to higher grade. In view of this position, Ministries/Divisions are requested that while sanctioning upgradation of the existing posts, it should be clearly provided in sanction letter that upgradation of the posts would take effect from the date the post is actually filled by a person in the higher grade. This would ensure that until the existing incumbent is formally appointed to higher grade the post and the incumbent would continue to be in lower grade. 3. If the incumbents working against the posts which have been upgraded do not possess the requisite qualifications/ experience of the upgraded post they will continue to work in their present grade and they will be allowed to improve their qualifications within a period of 5 years failing which their grade would be a dying cadre. 4. The incumbents of posts under Group-VII carrying B-13 - 14 will continue to draw their pay in their present scales are personal to them so long they hold the post and that would be a dying cadre. 5. This issues with the approval of Finance Division and Establishment Division vide No.F.2(59)R.2/83, dated 21-11-1985 and No.8/50/83-R.I dated 14-11-1985 respectively. [Authority.- Education Division O.M.No.F.6-13/84-AD(Lib), dated 26-12-1985].
AAJ 20% SPECIAL ALLOWANCE FOR ALL FEDERAL GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES KE NEWS CHAL RAHI HI KA PRIME MINISTER NA APPROVAL DA KAR FINANCE DIVISION KO SUMAARY BAHJVA DEE HI NOTIFICAITON KAY LAY.............
KIA YEH NEWS SUCH HI YAH NI.........KINDLY CONFIRM....
I am working in higher education department KPK as stenographer selection grade (BPS _15).now i have been upgraded to bps.16 but my department raised observation that selection grade could not be granted bps.16 and has remove the facility.Please provide documentary proof to claim our due right,.
AOA,KHALID RIAZ BHAI,APP,KOO HAJI HONAIN KI MUBARK KAY LIAY ANA THAA LIQAN BAWAJ AY DARD IN MY TWO SHOULDERS,MAIN APP KI KHIDMAT HAZAR NNA HOOSAKA,INSHALLAH MEDICINES KHATAM HONAIN KA Y BAD AAWOON GAA.
AA I have read the comments/suggestions of my colleagues regarding time scale of Stenographers. All are worried about time scales. I am of the opinion that Govt. is annoyed with the Time Scale. We should propose the name of uplift package of Stenographers. Govt. of the Punjab has already given uplift package to the teachers community. Similar pattern who should move. For example Stenographer BS 14 may be awarded BS-16 after 15 years qualifying services and BS-17 after 20 years Service Sr.Scale Stenographers/PA/APS (BS-16) after 3 years may be awarded BS-17 and after 8 years BS- or Stenographers( BS 14) having qualification may be awarded BS.16 Sr.Scale Stenographers/PA/APS (BS-16) having qualification MA may be awarded BS-17
Rana Abdul Wahid PA to EDO Education Sargodha 03216078445
AOA Raihan Bhai, shoulders ke kia ho gia kisi ko oper to ni bitha leya. Allah ap ko sehat dey. Care kia krain. Deprived case ka kuch ni hua selection grade to pre-mature increment ni mil rahi F.D ny clarification issue ki hay orders ni keyay. Un ko orders karny they magar ni hoy.
AA: I request to Mr. Khalid Riaz please registerred PA & Stenographers Association at Pakistan level and the meeting of all the provincial presidents may be convened to make the executive bodies at district level. After that a joint a solid agenda may be given to the Govt. by making all kind of sources.
Dear Khalid Riaz Bhai and my colleagues Assalam O Alaikum two years of up-gradation of post of APS, S/typist and time scale for PS/SPS (one time) is to be completed on 23.12.2013. Unfortunately the case of APS & S/typist is still at that stage which was two years back. We all are relying upon the decisions of the courts/tribunals which do not seem to be finalized in coming five years or more. We are sitting in Pakistan where preference is given to PERSONALITIES not to institutions, so any positive hope / favorable decision from courts/tribunals is mere a waste of time. The judiciary wanted to give favor to their some specific steno community and they gave them and by virtue of this, all steno community got the benefit of it otherwise, it was impossible to get the scale of 14, 16, 18 or 19. Now the courts have nothing to do with it and as such they are not serious. I am working in Senate/Parliament House and very well know the nature of such situations. The period of 2011-12 was of COURTS and at that time, what they wanted to do, they did it, but now they are not in such position. It is better and my suggestion that Establishment & Finance Divisions may be approached directly and efforts be made to convince them for time scale for steno community instead to waste the time and money with the courts. Moreover, National Assembly/Senate may also be approached by raising questions(s) for concerned Minister(s) to resolve our case.
dear Rehan Islam..... thanks for the details..... Federal Govt se koi aesi tawqa na rakhain k wo khud bakhud app ka kam kar degi.... ma ne requests Establishment Divn ko kit thi jis per mujhe NOC mil gai thi.... ab wohi NOC aur time scale k liye case finance bheja ha...... koshish udhar jari ha app bhi koshish karin wahan se case nikalne ki (Regulation 1)
Dear Khalid bhai thanx for reply. your efforts with establishment div and finance are no doubt appreciable and surely admitted. I will try my best to do something in this regard.
AA. My question is to Khalid Bhai. Please tell us whether you have made any coordination with Rao Muhammad Akram President PA& Stenographers Association Civil Secretrait Punjab for any combined charter of demand
AOA plz try for upgradation i.e 14 to 16 and 16 to 17 and most important for time scale promotion because in districts the posts of Sr steno and PA, PS does not exist. after 11 year of service we are still in BS-14, pleaz do for structure and time scale promotion
Dear Haji Khalid Bhai
ReplyDeleteWe all welcome to your good honour to come back to our sweet home Pakistan after performing "Hajj". Aap ko Bohat Bohat Haj Mubarik. Allah Aapko hamesha khush rakhay, aap ko sehat day, salamti ata farmay aur ham sab Zinda rahein to Islam par aur Moot aya to Iman k sath. Amin
Once again Congratulation on your Hajj. Hamaray liay be dua karein k next year hamein be Allah Umrah/Hajj ki Tofeeq atta farmay. Amin
A.A
ReplyDeleteHajj Mubarrak ho
Khalid sb.
ReplyDeleteKhalid Sb.
May God (Allah) accept your Hajj and congratulate u on preforming the Hajj and come back and also congratulate to your family and parents.
Thanks
Munir Qureshi
APS
Dear Khalid Bhai.
ReplyDeleteHajj Mubarak ho.
Apko bohat bohat Hajj Mubarak Ho.
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A.A
ReplyDeleteDear Khalid Bhai Hajj mubarak ho.
Wasim Gil Stenographer
EDO (Education),Bahawalpur.
Dear Haji Khalid Sahib,
ReplyDeleteWelcome to your good honour to come back to our sweet home Pakistan after performing "Hajj". Aap ko Bohat Bohat Haj Mubarik.
AOA, Naik khaishat ky sath Hajj mubarak. Allah ap ko aur ham sab ko sidhey rasty par chalay and aisi kai Hajain jaseeb kray Ameen summa Ameen.
ReplyDeleteSabir Chauhan, Lahore.
bohat bohat mubarak ho, wahan say any k bad esay lgta hy jessay ham ujri dunya mein aa gaey hein, Allah Tala sab ko saadat nasib faramey ............ Aameen
ReplyDeleteAOA,APKO,HAJI HONAIN KI BOOTH BOOTH MUBARK QABOOL HOO,APP OFFICE ATTEND KAR RAHAY HAIN,YAA HOME PER HAIN MUTALAA FARMA KAR MASHKOOR FARMAIN TAAKAY ,APP KAY PASS ASKOON PERSONALLY MUBARK DAINAIN KAYLIAY.
DeleteDear Brother Khalid Sb
ReplyDeleteAp Ko Hajj Mubark ho
Zulfiqar Awan
APS TO DG
TDAP-Karachi
DEAR KHALID BHAI,,,,,,,,,,,,,
ReplyDeleteTHE PUNJAB MUHTISIB UPGRADED THE POST OF CLERICAL STAFF SINCE 2008 AT THE LEVEL OF HIGH COURT. THE STENOGRAPHER ALSO UPGRADED IN LHR HIGH COURT SINCE 2002 IN BPS-16 AND THEN BPS-17 THE STENOGRAPHERS ARE ALSO FILED THE CASE TO THE ABOVE MENTIONED AUTHORITY TO BE UPGRADED THE SAME POSTS IMMEDIATELY. THE STENOGRAPHERS ARE REQUESTED TO FILED THE CASE OF THE ABOVE MENTIONED COURT FOR UPGRADATED
ZULFIQAR AWAN
APS TO DG
TDAP-KARACHI
Assalamo Alaikum Haji Khalid Sahib
ReplyDeleteMay Allah accept your Haj. A lot of congratulations to you. Hope you have prayed for us and our community as well. Remember in your prayers. Khuda Haifrz, Thanks
Aslamo Alaikum Wa Rehmat Ullah!
ReplyDeleteAp ko aur Ahle Khana ko Haji-e-Bait Ullah Mubarak Ho. Allah Talah apka Haj Qabook Kara and hum sub ko b Haj ki saadat ata farmaya. Aamin.
Muhammad Shafique Mughal
Attention: Mr. Shafique Mughal
DeleteAslamo Alaikum Wa Rehmat Ullah!
First of all I congratulate Mr. Khalid Riaz for performing the sacred duty of Hajj. May Allah ACCEPT your Hajj.
Secondly I want to ask Mr. Shafique Mughal about our pre-mature increment case which is pending in finance department, government of Punjab since June 2013. Please inform about this update.
Thanks
I joined the Office on 28.10.2013
ReplyDeleteCongrats for the "Hajj".
ReplyDeleteDear Khald Bhai
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Meri aur tmam colleagues ki taraf se apko HAJJ ki sa'dat boht boht mubarak ho. Allah tmam sathio ko Hajj/UMRAH ki sa'dat se nawazney ki taufiq ata farmaye. Aameen.
Rehan Islam
APS Senate Sectt Islamabad
Dear Haji Khalid Sb,
ReplyDeleteAap ko Bohat Bohat Haj Mubarik. May Allah accept your Hajj.
Once again Congratulation on your Hajj. Hamaray liay be dua karein k next year hamein be Allah Umrah/Hajj ki Tofeeq atta farmay. Amin Tx
AOA,Deprived stenos ka kuch pata ni jab k baqi categories ko time scale mil chuka hay serf stenos baqi hain. Kia ka koi waris na hay.Khalid bhai ab in logon ki duain bhi lo ya in ko jawab do k ap apna khud kar lain, Kai dostoon k sms atay hain Khalid bhai sy prchain k kun deprived stenos ke time scale ni mil raha. Halan K PS kw 23.12.2011 sy usi O>M min mil gia tha. stenos ka kia qasoor hay. Please pehli fursat min is case ko take up krain.
ReplyDeleteSabir Chauhan
Qabil Ihteram Chauhan sb
Delete22.10.2013 ko Finance Division ne clarification issue ki ha jis ma clear likha ha k selection grade walon ko bhi pre-mature increment mile ga....... tu ab koi doubt nahi raha ...... Selection grade ko bhi financial benefit ho giya.......
AA. Bohat Bohat Hajj Mubarik hu
ReplyDeleteRana Abdul Wahid
PA to EDO (Edu) Sargodha
Dear Haji Khalid Bahi
ReplyDeleteWe will discuss and talk a lot and that all afterwards, now the most important thing to do is to say you bohat bohat Hajj Mubarak. It is a special blessing of Almighty Allah on you to become Haji is such a young age. Allah ham sab ko apni rehmat ke saye me rakhe. Ameen
Once again my heartiest congratulations to you.
Safdar
Wah Cantt
Thanks brother
DeleteHajj Mubarak ho Khalid Bhai
ReplyDeleteThanks my colleagues
ReplyDeleteHajj Mubarak ho Khalid Sahib!
ReplyDeleteAttention: Mr. Shafique Mughal
ReplyDeleteAslamo Alaikum Wa Rehmat Ullah!
First of all I congratulate Mr. Khalid Riaz for performing the sacred duty of Hajj. May Allah ACCEPT your Hajj.
Secondly I want to ask Mr. Shafique Mughal about our pre-mature increment case which is pending in finance department, government of Punjab since June 2013. Please inform about this update.
Thanks
Hajj Mubarak ho Khalid Sahib! Hajj Mabroor, Hajj Mabroor, Hajj Mabroor
ReplyDeleteAttn: Mr. Yasir.
ReplyDeleteThe case of pre-mature increment is still pending in Finance Department and Secretary Finance still not sending the summary to Chief Minister for approval.
Muhammad Shafique Mughal
Attn: Mr. Khalid Riaz Esqr.
ReplyDeleteWhat is the latest progress of case titled Nasir Husnain regarding upgradation of Selection Grade Stenographers before FST.
Muhammad Shafique Mughal
HAY MUGHAL SB.HOW ARE YOU, FST IS UNFUNCTIONAL DUE TO NON AVAILABILITYOF CHAIRMAN. HENCE CASE IS PENDING TILL FURTHER ORDERS.I WOULD LIKE TO SAY AGAIN THAT PLEASE TRY TO PUT THIS THRUGH ELECTRONIC MEDIA OTHERWISE THIS BUREACURCY WILL NEVER GIVE US OUR RIGHT LIKE OTHER CATEGORIES OF EMPLOYEES. ALL THE CLARIFICATIONS IN THIS REGARDS ARE IN OUR FAVOUR, EVEN THEN CLEAR ORDERS FOR TIME SCALE FROM 23.12.2011 IS NOT ISSUED BY THE FINANCE DIVISION.
ReplyDeleteSABIR CHAUHAN LAHORE
Dear Chohan Sahib, some Stenographers holding Selection Grade in Faisalabad, Rajanpur, Bahawalpur etc. have filed compled before Provincial Ombudsman Punjab for upgradation of Stenographers w.e.f. 23.12.2011 and Ombudsman has sent the case to Secretary Finance Punjab for comments. Please pray for successful.
DeleteMuhammad Shafique Mughal
Dear Brothers,
ReplyDeleteHope all of you would be fine. Recently I think time scale has been given to accounts departments by the government, I do not why the same treatment is not being given to our cadre being the same nature case. In addition, Accounts deptt have been given up-gradation twice, once from 11 to 14 and then 14 to 16, they have been given back-date up-gradation too I think way back from 2007, thus they get a handsome amount as arrears for their up-gradation. In contrary to that we have not been given our due right we have been up-graded just for one scale from 15 to 16 by ignoring our demand of BS-17, we have not been given any back date promotion benefit also like w.e.f. 2007 like accounts deptt. I would like to draw kind attention of our great leader Haji Khalid Riaz to this aspect, if there is any such plan in his mind, or has he filed any petition for above mentioned issues, like for BS-17 for APS, back-date up-gradation for APS or time scale for APS. I would be highly thankful to him for up-dating us. Furthermore, it was learnt that special pay increase for APS was also under consideration, what ha
Khalid sb. Salam and all of this forum.
ReplyDeleteDear brother, The whole APS get the benefits from BPS-15 to 16 and PS also get the same benefit but time scale has been fixed for only PS. Due to getting the same benefit i.e time scale promoted as PS from BPS-17 to BPS-19 but the APS is still in BPS-16 (only one scale up-gradation) and there is no further promotion in BPS-17. It is my humble request to Mr. Khalid, Please do something for APS for timescale so that they get scale BPS-16 to BPS-18 through time scale. This will be a benefits for all of us. Please do efforts because we have wasted much time and most of our APS is going to retire.
Thanks
Munir Qureshi
APS
thanks...... Time scale BPS-17 k liye upgradation date se kam az kam 3 saal tak intezar karna pare ga...... ta ke hamara case mature ho jai.... kiyon k hum 3 saal bad time scale 17 mang rahe hain.
DeleteReference STAR RICE November 7, 2013 at 12:41 AM comments .Time scale BPS-17 k liye upgradation date se kam az kam 3 saal tak intezar karna pare ga...... ta ke hamara case mature ho jai.... kiyon k hum 3 saal bad time scale 17 mang rahe hain. Agar pehly say mojod stenos in B-16 aur B-14 walon k leya time scale mang lia jay aur ho jay tu B-16 mn any waly nay stenos kw asani ho jay gi jonhi un ki service 3 saal ho gi un ko B-17 mil jay ga wana pher case karny sy mazeed waqat lagy ga. likn agar pehly walon k leya koshash na krny ka program hay to alaida bat hay. samajhdari ki bat yehi hay k 23.12.2011 sy hi B-17 man liajay ta k 3 saal mukamal hony pr sab ke mil jay.
DeleteSabir Chauhan, Lahore.
Thank you very much for giving latest information regarding pre-mature increment's case.
ReplyDeleteBest regards.
Yasir Hameed.
Dear Chohan Sahib, some Stenographers holding Selection Grade in Faisalabad, Rajanpur, Bahawalpur etc. have filed compled before Provincial Ombudsman Punjab for upgradation of Stenographers w.e.f. 23.12.2011 and Ombudsman has sent the case to Secretary Finance Punjab for comments. Please pray for successful. Said Stenographers have arranged sufficient funds for filing writ petition before Lahore High Court, if they could not obtain success from Ombudsman.
ReplyDeleteMuhammad Shafique Mughal
Dear Chohan Sahib, some Stenographers holding Selection Grade in Faisalabad, Rajanpur, Bahawalpur etc. have filed complaint before Provincial Ombudsman Punjab for upgradation of Stenographers w.e.f. 23.12.2011 and Ombudsman has sent the case to Secretary Finance Punjab for comments. Please pray for successful. Said Stenographers have arranged sufficient funds for filing writ petition before Lahore High Court, if they could not obtain success from Ombudsman.
ReplyDeleteMuhammad Shafique Mughal
Jo log pehle se BPS-16 ma they un k liye finance ne aik premature increment allowed kar diya ha..... ab unko bhi financial benefit ho giya ha.... 22.10.2013 ko clarification issue howi ha
DeleteSaid notification is only grant of premature increment but not upgradation in next scale, Stenographers holding selection grade since so many years and they are deserve for upgradation in next grade, e.g. a Junior Stenographer holding selection grade in BS15, he should be upgraded in BS16 as time scale and holding Selection Grade 16, he should be upgraded in BS17. These Stenographers are in the age of superannuation.
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Dear colleagues, on 23.12.2011 the PS already in B-17 have been given time scale one time and they granted B-18 having 3 years service, but the stenographers and stenotypist already in B-16 and B-14 have not given the same treatment which leads to descrimination/disparity.Pre-mature increment is also not given because, they were granted increment at the time whe they granted selection grade. whereas, selection grade was adjustment for seniors on the basis of a prescribed ratio, but the upgradation/promotion is a general orders for all incumbent of the upgraded posts. This clarification is also needed for those who are confused, by the CGA only because their accounts are direct nder CGA which are called departmentalized and under CGS. The Chief Accounts Officers are not ready to implement the orders of F.D. Or if any body has such clarificatgion issued by the CAO of any Department kindly put on the forum.
ReplyDeleteSabir Chauhan Lahore
Dear Friends.
ReplyDeleteWhat is the latest status of 20% special allowan pending with PM House.
Regards.
As per some Newspapers, Govt. has filed inter court appeal for review. According to previous record of this Govt.they will try to refuse to pay such allowance or keep it pending till new budget. May allah give them courage to help employees in these hard days where prices of commodites are flying to catch the sky due their wrong policies and mis-management.
ReplyDeleteSabir Chauhan, Lahore
Said notification is only grant of premature increment but not upgradation in next scale, Stenographers holding selection grade since so many years and they are deserve for upgradation in next grade, e.g. a Junior Stenographer holding selection grade in BS15, he should be upgraded in BS16 as time scale and holding Selection Grade 16, he should be upgraded in BS17. These Stenographers are in the age of superannuation.
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Reference STAR RICENovember 7, 2013 at 12:41 AM
ReplyDeleteTime scale BPS-17 k liye upgradation date se kam az kam 3 saal tak intezar karna pare ga...... ta ke hamara case mature ho jai.... kiyon k hum 3 saal bad time scale 17 mang rahe hain.
Agar deprived stenos k leya B-17as time scale is approved with 3 year's condition it will be useful for newly upgraded in B-16 when they jcomplete 3 years service. If the case is started after 3 years, it will take more time and delay in grant of B-17. So, it is suggested that deprived stenos case from 23.12.2011 may be taken up with the finance division as establishment division has no opojection for granting B-17 to deprived stenos.
Sabir Chauhan Lahore
Asalam o alaikum.
ReplyDeleteHajj Mubarak.
Muhammad shafiq,
Abbottabad.
Dear Khalid Bhai,
ReplyDeleteAssalam-o-Alaikum
Sir what is the status of 10% Promotion Quota of Stenographers (APS) as Suprintendent case which was pending in Islamabad High Court for a long time...
Kind Regards,
Zulfiqar Awan
TDAP-Karachi
Dear Khalid Bhai,
ReplyDeleteWhat is the current postion of """""""4 TIER FORMULA FOR PROMOTION OF ALL CIVIL SERVANTS OF FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, 4 TIER FORMULA FOR ALL CIVIL SERVANTS. CASE IN PROCESS"""""
Kind Regards,
Zulfiqar Awan
APS
Khalid bahi, salam and all of this forum, the KPK (high court) up-graded the superintendent from BPS-16-17 and before this the establishment division already given the suggestion/opinion to the M/o. Finance for up-gradation of BPS-16-17 of Supdt. Now, it is clear the in the whole the superintendent will get the BPS-16 to 17. I hope the M/o. Finance will issue the same to all province. On the other hand, in Education department time scale formula will introduced and every body specially clerical staffs get the same benefit and promoted from BPS-07 to BPS-16 (on basis of length of service). The supdt. will also get the benefit of BPS-16 to 17 but APS in hope for time scale of BPS-17. Through following example. We can get registered the writ in the Court.
ReplyDelete1. PS (time scale awarded)
2. Clerical staff (time scale awarded)
3. Superintendent (time scale for completion of 5-years Service).
Time scale is not allowed for APS. We should try and without delay to submit the writ in the Court/FST and to get the same benefit it will take 1-year. Please to do something for all. Our Prayers are with you.
Thanks
Munir Qureshi
APS
Very important point raised by our brother Mr. Munir Qureshi, in my opinion only APS are the victimized class who did not get their due share from up-gradation, instead of its actual demand of BS-18, they have been granted only BS-16 that too with no further promotion chances, we are entangled in a closed street now, it is painful but it is the brutal truth sir. Now we must set another goal for us and try to get at least time scale for APS at all costs and that too very briskly. Clerical cadre is consisting of those people who are less competent and despite their best efforts could not become PA/APS/PS but it is very strange that people who are less competent are getting benefits but on the other hand people who passed in their respective fields found themselves at the losing end, this practice need to be stopped sir. Another way to get BS-17 at a fast track is to try to restore the selection grade facility for APS, this way maximum of our brothers can go to BS-17. Another very important point is that recently computer allowance has been granted for teachers and technicians who work in Labs of education deptt, but despite I know sheer hard work of our great brother Mr. Khalid, the computer allowance has not so far been approved for APS who round the clock work on computers and nor the special PA @ Rs. 320/- per month has been enhanced for APS. I request our brother to kindly do excel its efforts to get our genuine rights, Mr. Khalid was the man who made it all possible but sorry to say that APS could not get their right share and instead our P.S have benefited the most.
ReplyDeleteHay colleagues, please read my comments dated 17.11.2013 above which exactly leads to our demand. If we succeed to get apprjoval for deprived stenos it will be easy to it's implementation towards newly upgraded stenos. We must not waid for completion of 3 years as statead by Khalid bhai. If we wait for 3 years then god forbad we lost our temper and courts and finance division will not listen to us and refused to give time scale with the single stroke of pen.
ReplyDeleteSabir Chauhan, Lahore
My dears case of deprived stenographer is already in the FST...... and FST is non-functional........
Deletesir geeeeeee..........ap ais case ko Islamabad High Court ma ni la kar ja sakty .........or ap ka 10% quota vala case ka kia bana hi..........
ReplyDeleteALL APSs MUST EFFORT FOR TIME SCALE...............
ReplyDeleteIn terms of financial powers delegated by the Prime Minister of Pakistan vide Establishment Division's Letter No. 3-1/2006-T-V dated 21-09-2011 and FPS Notification No. F.9/6/2002-Estt-(Vol-II) dated 27-09-2011, the Chairman, Federal Public Service Commission has up-graded the following posts alongwith the incumbents w.e.f. 22-11-2012 as under:
ReplyDeleteif this has been done.......... then
Telephone Operator BPS-7 to BPS-14
Library Assistant BPS-7 to BPS-14
Secruity Supervisor BPS-11 to BPS-14
Draftsman Cum Artist BPS-11 to BPS-16
then....will steno-typists have not right to upgrade? recently FPSC, upgraded their employees by the huge difference, but steno typist has just got 02 grade up..
Dear Khalid sb, pl pl do something about our carieer even PIPFA exam has hold ban? where we are sir? this message for also my steno's brother...
Regards
How to download this Establishment Division's Letter No. 3-1/2006-T-V dated 21-09-2011.
DeleteAll Ministries/Divisions/Departments are therefore advised to initiate
Deleteaction to upgrade/redesignate the existing professional/technical posts of
Librarians and to amend their relevant recruitment rules so as to bring the
same in conformity with above provisions of the approved Summary. It may,
however, be clarified that the upgradation of post implies abolition of the
existing post and creation of a new post higher grade. Upgradation of post
does not mean automatic upgradation of its incumbent. Appointment to the
upgraded post will have to be made in the manner prescribed for the post
under the existing rules. If a post is upgraded with immediate effect, the
incumbent would be left without any post (in his pay scale) until he is
approved for appointment to higher grade. In view of this position,
Ministries/Divisions are requested that while sanctioning upgradation of the
existing posts, it should be clearly provided in sanction letter that
upgradation of the posts would take effect from the date the post is actually
filled by a person in the higher grade. This would ensure that until the
existing incumbent is formally appointed to higher grade the post and the
incumbent would continue to be in lower grade.
3. If the incumbents working against the posts which have been
upgraded do not possess the requisite qualifications/ experience of the
upgraded post they will continue to work in their present grade and they will
be allowed to improve their qualifications within a period of 5 years failing
which their grade would be a dying cadre.
4. The incumbents of posts under Group-VII carrying B-13 - 14 will
continue to draw their pay in their present scales are personal to them so
long they hold the post and that would be a dying cadre.
5. This issues with the approval of Finance Division and Establishment
Division vide No.F.2(59)R.2/83, dated 21-11-1985 and No.8/50/83-R.I dated
14-11-1985 respectively.
[Authority.- Education Division O.M.No.F.6-13/84-AD(Lib), dated 26-12-1985].
DEAR KHALDI BHAI
ReplyDeleteASSALAM-O-ALAIKUM
AAJ 20% SPECIAL ALLOWANCE FOR ALL FEDERAL GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES KE NEWS CHAL RAHI HI KA PRIME MINISTER NA APPROVAL DA KAR FINANCE DIVISION KO SUMAARY BAHJVA DEE HI NOTIFICAITON KAY LAY.............
KIA YEH NEWS SUCH HI YAH NI.........KINDLY CONFIRM....
REGARDS,
Z.A.AWAN
APS
No progresss in the case, summary still with Minister Finance
ReplyDeleteI am working in higher education department KPK as stenographer selection grade (BPS _15).now i have been upgraded to bps.16 but my department raised observation that selection grade could not be granted bps.16 and has remove the facility.Please provide documentary proof to claim our due right,.
ReplyDeleteThanks Khalid Bhai............for your kind information.
ReplyDeleteAOA,KHALID RIAZ BHAI,APP,KOO HAJI HONAIN KI MUBARK KAY LIAY ANA THAA LIQAN BAWAJ AY DARD IN MY TWO SHOULDERS,MAIN APP KI KHIDMAT HAZAR NNA HOOSAKA,INSHALLAH MEDICINES KHATAM HONAIN KA Y BAD AAWOON GAA.
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DeleteAA
DeleteI have read the comments/suggestions of my colleagues regarding time scale of Stenographers. All are worried about time scales. I am of the opinion that Govt. is annoyed with the Time Scale. We should propose the name of uplift package of Stenographers. Govt. of the Punjab has already given uplift package to the teachers community. Similar pattern who should move. For example
Stenographer BS 14 may be awarded BS-16 after 15 years qualifying services and BS-17 after 20 years Service
Sr.Scale Stenographers/PA/APS (BS-16) after 3 years may be awarded BS-17 and after 8 years BS-
or
Stenographers( BS 14) having qualification may be awarded BS.16
Sr.Scale Stenographers/PA/APS (BS-16) having qualification MA may be awarded BS-17
Rana Abdul Wahid
PA to EDO Education
Sargodha
03216078445
AOA Raihan Bhai, shoulders ke kia ho gia kisi ko oper to ni bitha leya. Allah ap ko sehat dey. Care kia krain. Deprived case ka kuch ni hua selection grade to pre-mature increment ni mil rahi F.D ny clarification issue ki hay orders ni keyay. Un ko orders karny they magar ni hoy.
ReplyDeleteSabir Chauhan, Lahore
AGPR sub Office Peshawar ne Clarification per selection grade ko premature increment de diya ha.... Clarification hi kafi ha es ma order nahi hota
ReplyDeleteDear Khalid Bhai...
ReplyDeleteAssalam-o-Alaikum
Sir I asked you about your 10% quota case of stenographers pending with Islamabad High Court.....
What is the status of that case....
Regards,
Zulfiqar Awan
APS
Please read the word we instead of who
ReplyDeleteand BS-18 after 8 years service In BS-16
Rana Abdul Wahid
AA:
ReplyDeleteI request to Mr. Khalid Riaz please registerred PA & Stenographers Association at Pakistan level and the meeting of all the provincial presidents may be convened to make the executive bodies at district level. After that a joint a solid agenda may be given to the Govt. by making all kind of sources.
Rana Abdul Wahid
Sargodha
Assalam-o-Allaikum.
ReplyDeleteI am a little bit late but as said Der Amad Drust Amad.
App ko Hajj ki bohat bohat mubarak ho.
Dear Khalid Riaz Bhai and my colleagues
ReplyDeleteAssalam O Alaikum
two years of up-gradation of post of APS, S/typist and time scale for PS/SPS (one time) is to be completed on 23.12.2013. Unfortunately the case of APS & S/typist is still at that stage which was two years back.
We all are relying upon the decisions of the courts/tribunals which do not seem to be finalized in coming five years or more.
We are sitting in Pakistan where preference is given to PERSONALITIES not to institutions, so any positive hope / favorable decision from courts/tribunals is mere a waste of time.
The judiciary wanted to give favor to their some specific steno community and they gave them and by virtue of this, all steno community got the benefit of it otherwise, it was impossible to get the scale of 14, 16, 18 or 19. Now the courts have nothing to do with it and as such they are not serious.
I am working in Senate/Parliament House and very well know the nature of such situations.
The period of 2011-12 was of COURTS and at that time, what they wanted to do, they did it, but now they are not in such position.
It is better and my suggestion that Establishment & Finance Divisions may be approached directly and efforts be made to convince them for time scale for steno community instead to waste the time and money with the courts.
Moreover, National Assembly/Senate may also be approached by raising questions(s) for concerned Minister(s) to resolve our case.
Regards,
Rehan Islam
APS Senate Secretariat
dear Rehan Islam..... thanks for the details..... Federal Govt se koi aesi tawqa na rakhain k wo khud bakhud app ka kam kar degi.... ma ne requests Establishment Divn ko kit thi jis per mujhe NOC mil gai thi.... ab wohi NOC aur time scale k liye case finance bheja ha...... koshish udhar jari ha app bhi koshish karin wahan se case nikalne ki (Regulation 1)
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DeleteDear Khalid bhai
ReplyDeletethanx for reply. your efforts with establishment div and finance are no doubt appreciable and surely admitted.
I will try my best to do something in this regard.
Rehan Islam
APS Senate Sect
Mabrook
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ReplyDeleteHay colleagues, where are you
ReplyDeletesabir chauhan
AA. Chauhan Bhai ke bat theek has where are you?. No one is submitting his comments. please carry on.
ReplyDeleteRana Abdul Wahid
Sargodha
AA. My question is to Khalid Bhai. Please tell us whether you have made any coordination with Rao Muhammad Akram President PA& Stenographers Association Civil Secretrait Punjab for any combined charter of demand
ReplyDeleteRana Abdul Wahid
PA Sargodha
AA. My request is to Mr. Shafique Mughal zida kamooshi achi bat nahi ha.
ReplyDeleteRana Abdul Wahid
PA Sargodha
Thank you very much for giving latest information regarding pre-mature increment's case.
ReplyDeleteBest regards....
Pakistan Web Online
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ReplyDeleteplz try for upgradation i.e 14 to 16 and 16 to 17
and most important for time scale promotion because in districts the posts of Sr steno and PA, PS does not exist. after 11 year of service we are still in BS-14, pleaz do for structure and time scale promotion