SOLVING PROBLEMS OF STENOGRAPHERS(APS) AND P.S
Congratulation to all Stenographers for getting the BS-17. God Bless on Mr. Khalid Riaz & all Stenographers.
Dear Khalid Riaz bhai! Any information about time sclae of Stenotypist's?
Yay aik booth khushi ki khabar hay aur ham tamam stenographers koo Mr.Khalid Riaz aur auski tamam team koo ais lengthy struggle par jitna shukria adda karany ya mubarkbad dainy booth kam hay,jin ki beneficiary struggle say aik class 4th mulazim officer cedar main ponch chuka hay,ab tamam colleques ko request karta hoon kay ais khushi kay moqa par apanay hero kay account main jitni raqam momkin hoo sent kar kay mashkoor farmawany .Mr.Khalid Riaz Bahi ,yay zara tafseel say bata dainy kay ais main ham tamam 23.12.11,kay bad rtd honay walay colleques koo bhee koi faida howa hay kay nahai.Thanks
Salam to all Steno Community!First of all I would like to convey a lot of congradution to our great Hero H.E. Mr. Khalid Riaz Sb. for this great achievement and secondly to all those Stenographers who will Insha Allah get soon benefit from this Time Scale. Dear Khalid Riaz Bahi pls let us clear about the approved case of time scale. Whether the case is only for those Stenographers who are senior most and were already in Grade-16 prior to upgrdation or newly upgraded Stenographers will also get benefit of Grade 17. And whats about senior most Stenotypists and newly upgrdaded Stenotypists? Will they also get any benefit from Time Scale. Regards
Mr.Khalid Riaz Bahi first of all congaduation to your goodself for this great achievement ,it is requested to plz inform me that we all RTD,after 23 Dec 11,and completed 10 years as a stenographer 15 from 1/2/2oo2 upto 1.2.12,and RTD,1.4.2o12,and moveover from 1.12.2oo1,in BS-16,and reverted back to BS.15,is entitled for BS-17 .Or otherwise.I shall be very thankful to for this act of kindness.
Demands from Establishment DivisionGrant of Time Scale for Stenographers(PAs) and Steno-typists.The existing Stenographers (PAs)/Steno-typists already working in BS-16 and BS-14 from 1983 (rendering 30 years service in BS-16 and BS-14) have been deprived to consider/ give any promotion benefit, whereas they have only one to two years service to attain the age of superannuation, how they would get promotion benefit of Private Secretary (BS-17/BS-18)? The existing Stenographers/Steno-typists working in BS-16/14 may be granted time scale BS-17/BS-16.Stenographers (PAs) Working with BPS-20 Officers and Head of Departments have no way of promotion. Mostly Stenographers are working in BPS-16 have no chance of promotion because BPS-17 Private Secretaries are entitled to BPS-21 and above officers. Steno-typist and Stenographers already working in BPS-14/16 may be granted time scale BPS-16/17 on the condition of three years service in BPS-14/16. The newly upgraded Stenographers and steno-typists may also be granted time scale BPS-17/16, irrespective of their length of service or on the completion of three years service in BPS-14/16 and the Nomenclature of Stenographer may kindly be changed as Assistant Private Secretary.Recommendations of Establishment Division for Consideration by Finance Division.Time Scale relates to Finance Division, this Division will have no objection if a time scale on a specified length of service is granted to all civil servants, this will encourage all the low paid Government servants and will have positive impacts on their efficiency.
All low paid civil servants mean from BPS-1 to BPS-16.
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Dear my fellows, a.a.Thanx to Almighty Allah Who trued the dream of stenos thru the struggle of our leader Mr. Khalid Riaz. the approval of Establishment Div in the case is itself a great achievement and now the ball is in the court of Finance Division.2ndly it is a good news that not only stenos but all employes from 1-16 will get benefit of time scale.Rehan IslamPASenate Secretariat
Death Khalid Bhai and all my Steno brothersI congratulate to all of you on this historical achievement which is only make possible with the dedicated and untiring efforts of our leader Mr. Khalid Riaz. This is the time to be happy but I must say that from the above comments, I could not understand what the issue actually is, whether time scale will only be for Steno cadres of all other cadres right from 1 - 16 will be benefited and on what analogy. May I have the expert advice of our brother Khalid Riaz on this issue, please. Once again I thank you my brother on behalf of all Steno brotherhood, keep it up. This is just the beginning and this the time to strike and strike right and hard. May Allah bless all of us.Regards.Safdar
Dear Khan SahibPlease correct your words you written on the front of your commentsi think you intend to write dear Khalid Bhai instead of death Khalid Bhai Mohammad Farooq03334603977
Thanks a lot my dear friend, you got me absolutely right and I apologize from all my brothers and particularly Mr. Khalid Riaz, who very well know my intention, it was a typographical error, for which I am sorry.My regards. Safdar
Khalid Riaz Bahi ,meri samj main yay nanhi aya kay decision Aur case chal rahah hay Stenographers/Ps kay liay liqan peait main maror horah hay establishment waloon koo,yay kab say hamdard ban gay hain low paid mulazameen kay ,in koo us waqat khial nahi aya jab app 3 years tak aik lengthy struggle aur process say doo char thaey ,inkoo ais waqat sirf joo masla samanay hay woo hal karna chaiay ,yay ab problems hal karnay ki bajay ais koo tool danay ki sooch rahay hain ,quinkay ab nigran hookomat banay gi,yay doosri hookomat par dal dain gay ,stenographers/aur ps,ka masla aik elada issue hay aur doosray mulazameen ka aik elada issue hay jabkay financial application sirf stenographers aur ps ki booth kam hay aur jab yay fincial application saray pakistan kay mulazameen kayliay dain gay too woo booth ziada hay,pher inka jawab yay hooga kay new financial year 2013-14,main announce kia jaiy ga,yay too anamolies committee ki responsibility thee kay woo in irregularities koo dursat karkay approve karata aur within one week or tow week orders issu hoo jatay ,maray khaial main yay hamaray hero ki tamam struggle koo pusay pusth dalanay kay darpay hain.
Ultimately efforts by Khalid bhai shall give all benefits to the concerned, atleast now we have to keep wait and watch and pray fot fruitful result. However, in existing position we r already nd no one can stolen us our present rights,but pray for betterment and 100% Im sure we shall obtained the great efforts and hard struggle of our hero.
Raihan Bahi fiqar na karin en se sare haq cheen kar rahen ge. Lekin es ke liye step by step jana honga.
Thanks God and thanks our hero Mr. Khalid RiazWasim Gill
Thanks Mr.Khalid Riaz Bhai,for your above precious comments and we all colleques are hopeful for your success to achievement of the last target in the biright future of this community .
Hay colleagues,AOA. The comments of Mr.Khan are to the facts that there is no indication of achievement for those already in B-16,B-14 by virtue of selection grade since 2001 who have not been benefited by the upgradation of the post of stenographer from 23.12.2011. There should be clear demand for them. But,unfortunately, it is being tried to delay and put this case in well, because the time scales for recently upgraded all peoples is not possible. this will hamper and turn down the case of not benefited stenos. Therefore, don't be happy, yes affected peoples must be benefited first and than requested for others new promoted. The recommendation of Estt.Division are not clear these will linger on with no result, hence first try of decision on already in B-16 case which is in pipeline and secondly new cases be put up. Dear Colleagues, I know you will not be agreed with my comments but, these the factual and to the point. May allah help us.Sabir Chauhan
Dear Sabir Chuhan,All that steno-typists in BPS-14-16 are agreed with u. But Khalid bhai is trying to proceed. We can request to Khalid Bhai, Please give a special time to achieve a target of time scale to that deprived stenos who are already in 14-16 and could not be benefited for the reasons not known. All deprived steno have the same emotions which u have since long.All that brother stenos, who have been benefited by upgradation,is requested to please pray for us because we r also a member of the community of stenos.I think no one have wish to deprive his any steno brother. However i especially will request my brother Khalid Riaz, Plz, Plz, Plz, dont be angry with the deprived stenos, and try to achieve frist target to time scale only for stenos already in B-14-16, so that all the discrimination between stenos may be removed.Muhammad Aslam SaifiSteno(already in B-14)Faisalabad GPO0300-7601061
Dear Brother Khalid, Hope u would be in good health. God Bless u. Please let us know the criteria with detail set for Time Scale BPS 17.Hope to hear from u soon.Take CareS. Mahmood Ali Zaidi
my dear fellows,v r all repeating the similar comments in different ways and in fact putting pressure on dear khalid riaz instead of finance div. plz b aware that khalid riaz was already in bps-16 and he filed the case for granting bps-17 to stenographers. he knows better what to do and how the priorities to be set. normally, finance div. does not accept the demands as submitted before it, therefore do not make over-expectations from fin. div and appreciate the efforts of khalid bhai. i am also in bps-16 since 2008 (thru placement) and was not benefited. My colleagues who were just 1-2 years senior to me, were promoted in time, and now they r in bps-18 & 19... I understand that it is a matter of luck only. rehan islamPA, senate sectt. isld
Dear all Brothers.First of all Check my Demand.............Jab bhi time scale formula baney ga sub se pehle deprived stenotypists aur stenographers per apply hoga. Aus ke baad jab hamare 3 saal complete honge tabia ye formula hum per bhi apply hoga. Lekin mere sath ye taaon karin ke roz Finance Division ki regulation wing se malomat kiya karin takey un per pressure develop ho aur agar app ke koi assar rasookh ha wo bhi istemal karin. Shukriya
Many thanks for updating us dear brother Khalid, however, I think joining all the cadres with the title of low paid employees will further our just and very timely struggle, as the financial implication will increase, the more delaying tactics would be used by govt to linger it on. So kindly try to move Stenographers and all our counterparts case separately as there are very few Stenographers left in the entire country so that it can be done expeditiously as already bestowed to teaching cadre.Regards.Safdar
Thanks Rehan Aslam and Khalid Bhai for briefing regarding colleagues already in B-16. I hope it will be helpful and useful to know the factual position of the basic demand and its criteria of implementation. May God help us for the solution of the case with his blessing. Sabir Chauhan
Dear Khalid Bhai,What about Computer allowance and if you can help us by using your vital linkages to increase the special PA being given to PA working with grade-20 and above officers, as almost all the allowances have been increased by govt but this allowances could not get their attention. You may kindly use your linkages to get it increased at least to Rs. 1000/- being our just demand.We shall be thankful to your goodself for this extended help.My warm regards.Safdar
Dear Mr. Khalid Riaz Sahib,Assalamo Alaikum, your efforts are laudable, in particular, for Stenographers. We appreciate your efforts being made for the restoration of Selection Grade. Demand for Computer Allowance is quite genuine because Stenographers actually work on computers all the day long even on odd hours and on holidays. Change of nomenclature from Steno to Assistant Private Secretary would be a good change and to be considered as more respectable post. Would you please let us know the criteria for deprived Stenos already in BPS-14 and BPS-16 and the newly upgraded Stenos w.e.f. 23.12.2011 in BPS-14 & BPS-16 to BPS-16 & BPS-17 respectively. Regards,Muhammad Rafique
already explained in my comments
Thanks Khalid Riaz Sahib, SVP, Welfare Association for Stenographers and PS.I have carefully read all demands submitted by your good self to Raja Hassan Abbas Additional Secretary, Establishment Division Islamabad, regarding grant of time scale to the deprived Steno-typists, Stenographers in B-14, B-16 and also to the newly upgraded stenos. The demand for computer allowance to Stenos @ Rs. 2000 to Rs. 3000/- etc is also appreciable. I know that your hectic efforts and continuous struggle is only for the stenos community. I along with my all colleagues of Pakistan Post Office Department offer you a special SALUTE with regard and with the hope that Insha-Allah next term you will be elected as President of Welfare Association of Stenographers and PS. Muhammad Aslam SaifiSteno-typist (already in B-14),Faisalabad GPO0300-7601061
Thanks Saifi brother. Inshallah i continue my struggle for the betterment of Stenos Community.
my dear khalid bhai and fellows, a.a. the fed. govt. is in process to revise the scales and wants to bring uniformity in pay structure according to press reports and general discussion in offices.I pray and suggest that the case of time scale and other issues like allowances for stenographers/stenotypists must be solved before introduction of new proposed pay structure otherwise it could be very difficult to achieve the target. The fin. div. may excuse/pretend for financial implications etc. etc. at that time. May Almighty Allah always continue to showed HIS blessings upon us.Regards,Rehan Islam (already in BBS-16)PA, Senate Sectt. Islamabad
My dear Rehain Bhai. Pay Scales to wese bhi 1 Sep se revise honge. Lekin hamari koshish ha ke es se pehle kam ho jai. Regulation Wing ma case in process ha. Dono cases move howe hain, time scale and change of nomenclature.
dear khalid bhai,Allah ap ki zuban mubarak krain k scales 1st Sept se revise hojain. jahan tak talaq time scale aur nomenclature ka he, hum sab ap ki koshisho ka ahtram karte huway wait kr rhain hain. Rehan IslamPA, Senate Sectt. Islamabad
My dear Khalid Bhai, AOA, there is contradiction of your comments dated 16.12.2012 and 18.12.2012 16.12.2012 commentsJab bhi time scale formula baney ga sub se pehle deprived stenotypists aur stenographers per apply hoga. Aus ke baad jab hamare 3 saal complete honge tabia ye formula hum per bhi apply hoga. 18.12.2012 comments. Pay Scales to wese bhi 1 Sep se revise honge. Lekin hamari koshish ha ke es se pehle kam ho jai. Regulation Wing ma case in process ha. Dono cases move howe hain, time scale and change of nomenclature.Khalid Bhai, a question arises here that if, the scales are revised from Sept. than what about those already in B-14 and B-16 who have been retired between 23.12.2011 and i.9.2012. Please keep in mind this point, if you got opportunity to discuss the matter with authorities related with this issue.Sabir Chauhan
Hay Friends, it seems that every one is busy in Dinner,Lunch and Breakfast after achieving their all kinds of goals successfully. They have no demand from Govt. level and enjoying their success.Alas......Sabir Chauhan
DEAR SABIR CHAUHAN BHAIu know very well that govt. procedure normally takes sufficient time but it would b better if i say, "sufficient months or years". U now that there is a matter of financial and service benefits of low grade employees, so it cannot be decided in days by finance division becoz they have never been in favor of employees of grade 1-16. Plz do hope for better and appreciate for one Mr. Khalid Riaz who is struggling for all issues.Rehan Islam PA, Senate Sectt.
Rehan Bhai thanks for comments. Struggles of Khalid bhai for our rights are appreciable, I know he is not all and all, I mean to say is the absence of peoples from forum which confused and discourages the community. I am in contact with Khalid bhai from time to time tlephonically and through SMS. Please try to present on forum for aliving the forum and colleagues as well. Sabir Chauhan
MY DEAR FELLOWSi agree with the proposal of chauhan bhai. All request all members to introduce this site to their respective colleagues and make sure to be alive on this net forum and share ur efforts and views in the issues of our rights. Rehan IslamPa,Senate
My dear fellowsplz see my views dt. 24th Sept, 12 which I commented about Finance and Establishment Divisions. It has proved that I commented v.v.v. rightly. According to a news clipping appeared in Daily Jang Rwp, dt. 28 Sept. 2012 on front page, Fin & Estb. Div both extra-ordinarily rapidly processed the case of promotion of retired Addl. Secy to Secretary after their retirement. Without any delay, 54 Secretary level promotions, reverted by Supreme Court,have now been awarded (in back dates) to those 3-bureaucrats who retired in prev. years, whereas the rest Addl. Secy are still on job . plz See, when and how they will be benefited more?On the other hand, Our genuine case is still in pending files.Now see the difference of handling the cases of "bureaucrats" and "low paid employees" by Fin. & Estb. div. Regards,Rehan IslamPA Senate Sectt.
Hay colleagues,AOA. 10 months have been elapsed to the upgradation, but it's benefit is not extended upto those who were already in B-14 and B-16 by virtue of Selection grade or by any other way.But till today no positive/fruitful movement is not being brought even on board. You will see early and fruitful action on the case of senior bureaucrat will be taken after few days. There is a deadlock our contacts and change of views and lack of cooperation in regards to this case. Anyhow, may ALLAH give us courage to help each other and success to get the benefit of upgradation for all.SAabir Chauhan
ASSALAM O ALAEKUM TO ALL COLLEAGUES/ MUSLIMS,First of all I feel that whenever we enter in this forum, we may have to say “ASSALAM O ALAEKUM, (Pray to each other) instead of Hay, or Hi.2nd ly, I suggest to all my colleagues and especially our SVP Janab Khalid Riaz Sahib, that we may give a last and final notice/ reminder to the Finance Division through our SVP Khalid Riaz Sahib, for immediate implementation of the orders of FST Islamabad for up gradation of the post of Stenos already in B-14 and B-16 to B-16 and B-17 and rectify the discrimination between the stenos communities, with the plea that the FST Islamabad has accepted in his judgment and ordered clearly that the work of the post of Steno/PAs has been increased by literate of computer, fax etc also. Therefore, the post of Steno/ PA should be up graded according to the Govt. Policy of up gradation. Estt. Divn, as well as Fin, Divn, accepted, but partially implemented the orders of FST and up graded the posts of stonos/ P.As in B-12 and B-15 only while 3rd category of selection grade steno typist in B-14 and B-16, who are a little bit in numbers, have intentionally been deprived from their real right. If the Finance Division does not implement the orders of FST, then we all the deprived stenos may file a case separately in FST through our SVP Khalid Riaz at our own expenditures. I will also contact the PMAID.COM, for help in the matter and get to rectify the discrimination between the stenos communities. Now we may not sleep with sweet dreams up till we may not snatch our right.Muhammad Aslam Saifi Steno (Already in B-14)Faisalabad GPO0300-7601061
I am requesting to the authorities of the finance division Islamabad to consider and issue a notification in connection with the deprived stenographers BPS-14 AND BPS-15 one time moveover in 2001 in BPS-15 AND BPS-16,and reverted back to the aforesaid BPS-14 AND BPS-15 ,in the result of one dictator an illegal amendment in fundamental services rules 1973 and approval given by the unconstitutional assembly at that time may issue notification one step promotion in the criteria of 10 years length of service from 2001 to FEB 2012,that is natural justice I hope that the competent authorities of finance department may consider my request as early as possible and the afore said notification be issued within a few days I and my all colleques will highly be appreciated this act of kindness.
Dear Rehan Bhai,Ap comments dainy sy pehly yeh achhi tarha soch lya krn k jo ap comments dy rhy hn kaheen who hmari demand sy differ to nhi kr rhy? Kaheen hmari demand ko koi nuqsan to nhi pahonchy ga? Ap ko maloom hy k Khalid Riaz Sahib ny deprived stenos ki demand from 14 to 16 and 16 to 17 ki hy aur Establishment Division ny NOC b jari kr diya hy. Ab hmara case Finance Division mn hy. Ap ko maloom hona chahiye k apki request hmary Senior Vice President Khalid Riaz sy differ kr rhi hy aur dosry steno k nuqsan ka b andesha hy. Apko chahiye tha k mery comments pr apny comments daity k aya hmain Finance Division k khilaf condemn of Court ka case krna chahiye k nhi. Agr yes hy to phir es ka laeha amal tae krna chahiye aur Khalid Riaz Sahib ko request krni chahiye k please hmary sath chalain aur Finance Division ko btaen k B-14 aur B-16 stenos ki post ka work aur responsibilities b increase hui hn dosry stenos ki tarha. Lehaza deprived stenos ko b B-14 sy B-16 aur B-16 sy B-17 up grade kia jae.Muhammad Aslam SaifiSteno
Thanks Aslam Bahi,Services rules 1973,kay mutabik ham ko 2001 main Moveover BPS-16 main aur 2004 main BPS-17 main rules kay mutabkik hona chahay thaa,jis ka faida seceretariat mulazameen ko mil gia hay aur hamaray sath nainsafi dictator ki ghalat illegal amendment ki waja say hoi hay aur aus waqat ki assembly bhee unconstitutional thee yay mara qanoon nahi hay 1973 kay AAIAN main yay mulazameen ka fundamental rights thaa joo kay aus waqat ki constitutional assembly ki manzoori kay bad nafiz howa thaa joo foundation thee ais main kisi dictator koo koi tarameem karany ka ikthiar nahi thaa quinkay dictator ki assembly unconstitional thee woo aur amendment karsakti thee liqan foundation koo tabdeel ya radubadal karnay ka ikthiar nahi thaa ,liqan joo howa woo howa ,23.12.11,ko joo notification jari howa aus main yay too likh dia gia kay moojuda BPS-12 SAY BPS-14 MAIN AUR BPS-15 SAY BPS-16 MAIN upgrade howay hain unki 3 years kay bad one step promotion kardee jay ,liqan ham deprived stenographers ka koi zikar nahi thaa , Yay masla ais game kay Hero Mr.Khalid Riaz suhaib kay notice main personally pehalay laa chuka hoon .
Dear brothers,Assalam o AlaikumHope every body would be fine and doing great guns including my leader Mr. Khalid Riaz. I remained away from the forum for some days as I was on leave. Now I am back and would actively participate in the venue. I have at number of time requested Mr. Khalid to kindly make efforts for getting back date upgradation for Stenographers as was achieved by Audit authorities as they have been upgraded from 2005 and we despite our just right are getting upgradation from 2011, needs to look into this aspect. Furthermore, FST Lahore have recently given premature increment to Mr. Fryad an Accountant and Finance Division have issued notification to this effect also but very surprisingly all other upgraded cadres have been deprived from this just reward, we should try to get this benefit too because it is too late and it is feared that we may not left behind. By joining time scale with all other uncounted cadres, the management have made it quite difficult as the time scale is concerned. In my poor opinion we should solely fight for our time scale i.e. BS-17 for all Stenographers and also further line of promotion to BS-18, BS-19 after certain years as already given to Teachers by the Federal Government. Waiting for your kind words and response and advice, please.Regards.SafdarWah Cantt
Dear Mr. Aslam Bhai,A.A.ap mere konse comments ki baat kr rhe hain jo k hum sb ki demands k khilaf hain. pl. apne jwab me mere disputed comments ka ref. de dian. thanx.Rehan IslamPA, Senate Sectt.
Assalam o alaekum,Dear Rehan Bhai AP k First October k comments ki copy paste kr raha hon, esko please parrh laen, shyd mujy samajhny mn ghalati lgi hy ya ap demand ko differ kr gae?copy of your comments are as under:- requesting to the authorities of the finance division Islamabad to consider and issue a notification in connection with the deprived stenographers BPS-14 AND BPS-15 one time moveover in 2001 in BPS-15 AND BPS-16,and reverted back to the aforesaid BPS-14 AND BPS-15 ,in the result of one dictator an illegal amendment in fundamental services rules 1973 and approval given by the unconstitutional assembly at that time may issue notification one step promotion in the criteria of 10 years length of service from 2001 to FEB 2012,that is natural justice I hope that the competent authorities of finance department may consider my request as early as possible and the afore said notification be issued within a few days I and my all colleques will highly be appreciated this act of kindness.Muhammad Aslam SaifiSteno Faisalabad GPO
For Rehan BahiAslam bhai ap k comments ke nahi balke A.Raihan saab ki baat kar rahe hain.For Khan bhai.Establishment Division ne hamare upgradation order B-16 ki recommentdation ki thi BPS-17 ki nahi. Es liye hum ne BPS-17 hasil karne ke liye time scale ka sahara liya aur Establishment division se Manzor karwa kar Finance Dvision ko case bhijwa diya. Time Scale formula apply hone ke baad sub doston ki shikayat khatam ho jai gi. Time scale sirf aik dafa ke liye nahi hota, har 3 saal guzarne ke baad time scale mile ga......For example Federal Government Nurse BPS-20 ma bhi hain......DUA KARIN ALLAH HAMAIN KAMYAB KARE
Dear KhalidMany thanks for updating and guiding us. We all pray for your success because it is success of our entire class Ameen). I request you to kindly try to issue gazette issue settled from Finance Division as Estt Division had already verdict that Stenographer BS-16 is at par with all other BS-16 cadres and can attest and hold stamp, kindly help.My sincere regardsSafdar
KHALID BHAI.......KAFI DINO SA KOI UPDATE NI AYEE....FILE MOVE KE HA FINANCE DIVISION NA TIME SCALE KALAY YAH NI......OR 2ND COMPUTER ALLOWANCE KA KIA BANA HA...BECOZ (PMADIT) KA LOGON NA AIK APPLICATION MOVE KE THE K FINANCE DIVISION MAY KINDLY INCREASE COMPUTER ALLOWANCE..........KIA KOI IN CHEEZON KE KOI UPDATE HI..;...YAH FINANCE DIVISION AS USUAL DELAY TACT USE KAR RAY HIANMY ALL BEST WISHES WITH U...MAY GOD GIVE U SUCCESS IN THIS WORLD AND AS WELL AS END OF THIS WORLD...........KIND REGARDSZULFIQAR AWANPA TO DIRECTOR GENERALTDAP, KARACHI
Main Tamam Appnay Colleques ka Shukria Adda Karta Hoon Jinnoo Nain maray comments par itraz kia hay .Yay fitri baat hay kay koi meri age ka hay too woo meray comments par itfaq karta hoga ,liqan joo meri age say 15 ya 20 sal chootay hain too yay generation gap hay woo meray comments say itifaq nahi kartay hoongay ais liay main unko 20 sal past ki baat karta hoon too unki samaj main nahi ati .Quinkay Mr.Khalid Riaz Suhaib nain joo kam kar dekyia hay woo 2001 main hona chahiay thaa liqan us waqat koi marday mujahid peda nahi hoowa thaa joo aik dictator kay galat unconstituional amendment par awaz utataa oor uncontitutional assembly kay ooper itraz karta .Quinkay us dictaor nain too sari supreme court koo muhatal karkay rakdia thaa aur tamam sia oor sfaid ka malik bana hoowa thaa .Oor yay chand aik religeous aur poltical leaders us ki haana main haana mila rahay thehay jinko ham poor mulazameen kay sath koi dilchaspi nahi thee.Apnay liay too sab nain kia foreign banks main accounts kholay aur foreign main properties kharadian .Jab yay haal thaa too aik kamzoor aur majboor mulazim kia karta .Jis kay haq par daka partha hay too woo awaz utata hay liqan ham poor muazameen kay liay koon awaz utata koi agay maday mujahid hamaray hero ki tara nahi thaa ais laiay ham koo joo haq 2001 main milna thaa woo 2012,main aik hero ki waja say mila ,liqan aus main bhee khyima reh gaini jin ki nishan dahi ab ki gai hay aur Mr.Khalid Riaz suhaib ki struggle say akari marhaial main hay .
INSHALLAH A.RAIHAN SAHIB ALLAH KAMYABI DE GA
KHALID BHAI.......KAFI DINO SA KOI UPDATE NI AYEE....FILE MOVE KE HA FINANCE DIVISION NA TIME SCALE KALAY YAH NI......OR2ND COMPUTER ALLOWANCE KA KIA BANA HA...BECOZ (PMADIT) KA LOGON NA AIK APPLICATION MOVE KE THE K FINANCE DIVISION MAY KINDLY INCREASE COMPUTER ALLOWANCE..........KIA KOI IN CHEEZON KE KOI UPDATE HI..;...YAH FINANCE DIVISION AS USUAL DELAY TACT USE KAR RAY HIANMY ALL BEST WISHES WITH U...MAY GOD GIVE U SUCCESS IN THIS WORLD AND AS WELL AS END OF THIS WORLD...........KIND REGARDSZULFIQAR AWANPA TO DIRECTOR GENERALTDAP, KARACHI
Raihan Bhai, you are right generation gape always creat confusions, we are thinking first for stenos already in B-16 and B-14 and deman is for all after competion of 3 years. Like this stenos already in B-16 since 10-20 years they will not be again benefited as first from upgraation and now time scale. Because they all bill be retired after completion of 3 years. Sepretation of this case from the demand is a solution of this probleme. It means seniors case no not even in pipeline, if time scale is alllowed with the 3 years condition for upgraded peoples, the already in B-16 will not be again benefited.Sabir Chauhan
Dear Aslam bhaiThere is a confusion in the names between (i) "Rehan Islam" and (ii) a.raihan". My name spelling is REHAN ISLAM (working in Senate) and a.raihan is another person and I do not know a.raihan where works or may b a retired person. I always write my name, desig. and office name in the end of my comments. So, the comments which u r referring, are of Mr. a.raihan not of me. Regards,Rehan IslamPA, Senate Sectt.
Thanks Mr.Khalid Riaz Bhai,app kay comments say cafi tasali hoi,aur omeed hay kay time scale milnay kay bad ham koo BPS-16 AUR BPS-17 one step promotion kay bad he kuch fiada hoga jasay kay app kay,ilim main hay. Mr.Sabir Chuhan Bahi app kay comments say haqaqat samany agi ,maray oper comments ki roshani main,app har baat ki bunyad (foundation )kay mutalik ilim raktay hain aur booth samj kar comments daytay hain shukria,Mr.Rehan Islam Bahai,app Senate Sectt:Islamabad main PA,hain app koo Peshawar main provincial departments main koi nahi janta YAY too ham shukar guzar hain aus hero kay jis ki waja say ham aik collequies ki tara ais fourm per comments day rehay hain Dosra Senate aik bekar adara hay ,jis ka pakistan ki taraki main koi kirdar naanhi jis senate main aik Ghaulam Ali Jesi Soorat Moojood hoo aus senate say kia tawaqa rakhi ja sakti hay baqi app khud samj gay hoongay,aur main as a Technicain Information Department NWFP,main 1974 SAY 1975,TAK Provincial Assembly main raha hoon,aur PA.to TECHNICAL STAFF OFFICER GTS,NWFP Main NINE YEARS TAK RAHA HOON,PA,1.11..1983,say Health Department Peshawar main FOOD ANALSYT LABOARTORY,DRUG TESTING LABORATORY,Govt.Medicine Coordination Cell,AUR INCHARGE LIBRARIAN STAFF REFERENCE LIBRARY K.M.C.Peshawar main khidmat karata raha hoon,aur akhir 4 years Complaint Incharge DGHS KPK Peshawar kay office main Chief Minister ki complaint ki duty kartay howay 1.4.2012,koo RTD Howa Hoon, Meri dealing KPK,meri dealing tamam public kay sath rahi hay ,aur her maqtabay fiqir say mera taalak raha hay aur meri jitni service hoi hay app meri danisat main muj say age main boot chootay hain app generation gap ki waja say woo baat samj sakain gay joo app kay samnay hoi hoo aur main 1973 say tamam ab taak ghalat aur sahei kay mutalk janta hoon.
Assalam o alaekumSpecial thanks Bhai A. Raihan Sahib.. Ap ny tahammul aur burd bari sy kam liya aur meri bat ko negative way mn nhi liya na hi bura mana. Actually mn ny aitraz nhi kia tha, mery piyary aur chhoty bhai, mn ny to yeh kaha tha k kaheen ap ki demand hamari muttafiqqa demand sy differ na kr jae, aur hm dosri demand k chakkar mn parr kr apna asal maqsad deprived stenos ko time scale dilana , na bhool jaen.. Filhal jo hmain dushwari aur preshani lahaq hy woh hy up gradation stenos ki, jo depreived hn yani jin ki abi tak up gradation nhi hui. Sb sy pehly apny deprived bhaiyon ka masla utthaen aur phir dosra koi masla. Mujy maloom hy sb department mn sb ko up gradation 2007 sy mili aur arrear b mil gya. Yeh hm b hasil krn gy aur inshaAllah yeh koi rok nai sakta. Es maslay k lye tamam stenos aik hn, but deprived stenos k lye kuchh steno interest nhi ly rahy q k unka es mn interest nhi hy na. Eslye mn ny kaha tha k hm sb mil kr pehly aik masla suljha laen phir dosry sb masly automatically solve hoty jaen gy inshaAllah. U r nice and b ever nice to every one.Muhammad Aslam SaifiSteno Faisalabad GPO
Dear my brother Muhammad Aslam Saifi Suhaib main kisi kay comments per itraz nahi karata nan bura samjta hoon,quinkay yay fourm sab colleques koo dil ki baat karanay ka moqa farham karti hay quninkay ham sab stenographers bradari depreived hain koi bath nahi app maray bhai aur colleques hain ,ham too aus marday mujahid ka shukria bee ada nahi karsakatay jis nain kisi lalich kay bekhair apni struggle jari rakhi aur ajj hamaray tamam colleques upgrade hoo rahay hain ,aur inshallah Mr.Khalid Riaz bhai ki struggle akir rang laiy gee aur tamam targets hasil karlain gaay.
I am happy to read the comments of colleagues taking keen interest in solution of stenos problems. Now, I am hopeful that Inshallah we will succeed in achieving the target because, all friends have been awake for their right and God help those who help themselves. We may comments like friends/brothers and forget each other if views of any persons may not suit you and in their interest. Actually out finght is for welfare, hence don't be emotional, be happy. Because, how many friends you have find on this forum with the struggle of Khalid Bhai, now ho much names are on the forum who reads comments of each other. Thanks to all friends on forum and readers also.Sabir Chauhan
Thanks Mr.Sabir Chauhan Bhai,for your comments for the special satisfaction of me and also all of our colleques ,wherein u r inform that before the settlement of the case of old deprieved stenographers whose are not benefited in up-gradation to the BPS-14/16, one step promotion for the BPS-14/15 in BPS-15 and in BPS-17,must be necessary ,otherwise result of lengthy struggle for the aforesaid purposes is in vain. .
dear a.raihan sahib and all my colleagues a.rahan sahib no doubt u r my senior and possess more info as compared to me due to ur experience in different departments. i respect ur all comments. As far as Senate is concerned, i say with all respects, plz b informed that the employees have nothing to do with the Senators. The employees of Senate from a Naib Qasid to Secretary, are alike the employees of other organizations. We are earning our income just due to this prestigious organization (i.e. Senate), so all members/senators are also respectable for us and for me too. For all my colleagues: like u my fellows, I also but I always admire the services of our great leader Mr. Khalid Riaz, he is struggling hard and doing all efforts which the Stenos of Senate, National Assembly, PM House/Sectt, President Sectt. etc. could not do and cannot do in future too. Despite working in highly profile Org. we r still looking toward Mr. Khalid Riaz. I on behalf of all Steno community, salute Mr. Khalid Riaz.Rehan IslamPA, Senate Sectt.
Thanks Mr.Rehan Islam,for your precious comments I know that all of my colleques who is sending any information views through this fourm is very respectable and I am also respect of every one collequ as like a brothers.
Dear Rehan Aslam, Riahan,Saifi,Khalid Bhai and all colleagues AOA. No doubt U R valuable comments have weight, but the stenos from Estt.and Finance Divisions does not appear and participate on forum. Is they have not interet or have any bandings? There are many ways to put their comments upto Government e.g.submission of a question in Senat and National Assembly through any Government or opposition member as previously case taken by the KPK Assembly and via Media. If related colleagues does not do this, please arrannge meeting of Khalid Bhai as representative of stenos with any member who will brief them for solution so the case be finalized an early.Sabir Chauhan
I agreed with the comments of Mr.Sabir Chauhan ,it is requested to my colleques of Estt: and Finance Division Islamabad to appear on this fourm and write valuable comments wherein mentioned their views for the progress of one step promotion of the stenographers and change of nomenclature of the aforesaid post because u.r.already serving in the aforesaid divisions and internal position better known about the case.
Thanks Brother A. Raihan. M happy to view ur comments and observed u r a nice fellow.In addition to that, m also agreed with all the comments captioned above, but m still waiting for the comments that if the Finance Division does not take interest regarding grant of time scale to the deprived stenos already in B-14 and B-16, then what should we do? It is requested to all colleagues, please If possible, do your comments, whether Mr. Khalid Riaz Sahib should call far a Press Conference being a Senior Vice President of Stenos Welfare Association or we should under the supervision of Khalid Riaz Sahib file a case directly for contempt of Court against Finance Division or otherwise? Awaiting ur comments.Muhammad Aslam SaifiSteno Faisalabad GPO0300-7601061
Even the elapsed of one month to the letter sent to Finance Division, no news is being listened to us.We know the nature and rush of work in every Ministry because our community is well versed to clear the work. Actually they deliberately hanging the case for teasing us with different tacts. It is comprehended that our colleagues in related ministries are not taking interest even informed the position and verbals views as we know such things are openly discussed by the concerned persons.No clue is being opened in regards to the case of stenos already in B-16 and 14. What a marvelous situation?. In the end, A.Raihan bhai is requested to kindly all the suggestions given in the forum by different persons for grant of upgradation benefit to stenos already in B-16,14 may be incorporated in one section, so that the reader should read in one section instead of all forum.Sabir Chauhan
Assalam o AlaekumBhai Sabir Chuhan Sahib, ap active haen aur continuously B-14 aur B-16 k up gradation k lye koshish b kr rahy haen es forum pr, but ap yeh nhi bta rahy k agr Finance Division interest nhi leti aur jaldi deprived stenos ki up gradation nhi krti tw hamain kia krna chahiye? mn ny apny comments maen kaha tha k sab colleagues mashwara daen aur apni opinion daen k hmain yeh up gradation kis tarha hasil krni chahiye, hamaen konsa raasta apnana chahiye? But abi tak kisi ny b apni opinion nhi di. Please ap maery comments ko dobara parrh laen , aur btaen what should we do to achieve our target of up gradation of deprived stenos from B-14 to B-16 and B-16 to B-17 with effect from the date from which other up gradations have been implemented.Muhammad Aslam SaifiSteno Faisalabad GPO
My dear Aslam bhai and fellowsa.a.Aslam bhai ne jo proposals di hain, me unhe sahi tarha se samajh nai pa rha hoo. aik jaga wo propsoed karte hain k:---""(1)Yani ya to Selection Grade deprived stenos B-14, B-16 ko up grade kia jae Jesy dosray tamam cadres ko up grade kia giya hy, Esliye yeh discrimination khatam ki jae.""jo post aik bar upgrade hogai he or os me deprived stenos ko koi faida nahi huwa to phir govt.kis tarha or q sirf deprived stenos k lye wo post dobara upgrade kre gi? or bilfarz kr b de to jo pehle hi is se faida utha chuke hain, wo bi hmare sath (yani deprived stenos k sath) phir upgrade ho sakte hain or hamara masla wohi ka wohi reh ga.meri proposal ye he k vision scale ya premature increment k bijaye sirf is bat pe zor dia jae k wo tmam stenotypist or stenographers jo grade 12/14 aur 15/16 me 3 yrs ya 5 yrs complete kr chuke hain ya jab bi wo complete kar le gai to wo good ACRs per, S/typist next scale-16 aur S/grapher next scale 17 me PLACEMENT k zarye chale jai gay.grade 16 and 17 me kam az kam 3 yrs service krne k bad yahi stenos phir next scale via PLACEMENT grade-17 and grade-18 k lye consider kie jaintime scale k bijae PLACEMENT pe zor dena chahye q.k. time scale sirf aik dafa k lye milta he jab k PLACEMENT har aik khas period yani 3 sal, 5 sal k bad ACRs ki bunyad pe milta he.Senate Sectt. / N.Assembly me is ki misal mojod he jahan drivers grade 9 me or LDCs grade 11 me kam kr rehe hain sirf PLACEMENT ki waja se. LDSc abi tak LDCs hi hain promotion na hone ki waja se lakin hain grade-11 me.Rehan IslamPA Senate Sectt.
Yes, Finance Division is not taking interest in case of deprived stenos case, whereas, they have given benefits some catgories who had not even demanded. I do not know whey they are creating discremanatory situation between senior stenos and juniors. Previously, the establishment division given his willingness to finance division that they have no objection if, the next scale is given to selection grade stenographers. But the policy of F.D is known to me,perhaps all of us.Sabir Chauhan
Respected Sir. Mein Tariq Baloch Stenographer Anti-Corruption Establishment, Bahawalpur (Punjab) sy baat kr raha hoon. Punjab Province ny 01.01.2016 ko J/C, S/C, Assistant/Head Clerk and Superintendent ko KPK ki analogy pr 7 sy 11, 9 sy 14, 14 sy 16 & 16 sy 17 respectively upgrade kr dia hai. Clerical Staff ki ye 2nd time upgradation hai. Year 2007 sy pehle J/C BPS-5 ka aour Assistant/Head Clerk BPS-11 ka hota tha jbke Steno BPS-12 ka hota tha yaani Steno J/C sy 7 scale aour Assistant/Head Clerk sy 1 scale aage hota tha. Jb clerical staff ki 2nd time upgradation howi to J/C BPS-5 se BPS-7 aour Assistant/Head Clerk BPS-11 sy BPS-14 mein chale gaye. Youn J/C Steno sy 7 sy kam ho kr 5 scale peechey reh gaya jbk Assistant/Head Clerk jo Steno sy 1 scale km hota tha wo Steno sy 3 scale aage chala gaya. Taham Allah Pak k karam sy aour aap ki untired struggle sy Stenos ko bhi BPS-14 mill gaya jo KPK ky baad Punjab ne bhi Year 2013 mein hm Stenos ko de diya. Youn hm Stenos bhi Assistant/Head Clerk k barabar ho gaye. Ab jbke Clerical Staff ki 2nd time upgradation howi hai aour J/C ko direct BPS-11, S/C ko direct BPS-14, Head Clerk ko directly BPS-16 aour Superintendent ko directly BPS-17 mill gaya hai jbk Stenos k saath discrimination ki gaye hai. jbk Stenos ko pichli dafa jb upgrade kiya gaya tha to condition Intermediate ki lagae gae thi jbk Clerks is tarah ki conditions sy mustasna hein aour Assistant/Head Clerk Steno sy aage barh kr BPS-16 mein chale gaye hain. Youn iss tarah Stenos sy bohut barri zyadti howi hai. Unfortunately Stenos ki APCA ki analogy pr koi Union bhi ni hai jo Stenos ki problem ko understand kre aour iss issue to raise kre. Ab hm Punjab waloon ko sirf aour sirf aap hi sy umeedein hain k app Assistant/Head Clerk ki analogy pr hm deprived Stenos ko bhi BPS-16 dilwa skte hein jb k Stenos ki recruitment bhi Intermediate ki base pr hoti hai. Kindly Stenos ki bhi association all Pakistan ki tarz pr ki jaye aour deprived Stenos jo BPS-14 mein hein unhein bhi upgrade kr k BPS-16 dilwaya jaye on priority basis. Hope for early positive reply.
AGREED every steno should struggled to get the right
bilkul theek kaha ap nay tariq sab
Yar Stenographers sirf batain hee karty rahay gain, selection grade kee dafa bhee zaidti hoyee, time scale kee dafa bhee zaidti, ek waqat Stenographer BPS-12 main aur Assistant BPS-11 main thay, aur abb Assistant BPS-16 and Stenos BPS-14, Weldone APCA. koyee bhee Officer Stenographer kay beghair neih chal sakta, aur hum sirf batain hee kar rhay hain, kab aqal aya gee. Aab bhe samj jao