In hukamranoon sy koi umeed rakhna bekar hay. 20% special allowaance tu dey ni rahay aur kia dain gy janab Baqi sab ko time scale mil gia serf deprived stenos ko kuch ni dia ja raha Selectioin Grade wali increment hi kafi hay ab ni di ja rahi. Na notification, na pay fixation and no premature increment ab sawal banta hay k selectin grade walon ko kia mila upgradation say Ab suspense create kar dia gia hay good news ka wo bhi upgradation walon k leya hoga.Ziada khush hony ki bhi arorat ni hay bhy Rehan and Awan sahib
Dear Khalid Bhai. AoA. Although, due to the behaviour of our Politicians and Leaders, we should not live in the Paradise of Fools but being a Muslim we have a firm belief in Allah Almighty and after that believe in your struggles. Hopefully, a good news will be announced from your side. All the civil servants should pray for the success of Khalid Bhai. May Allah Almighty give him success and another good news come soon Insha-Allah Best of Luck my Brother
Dear Chohan Sb. AOA APS holding Selection Scale BS-16 has been allowed two premature increments on upgradation of the post of APS from BS-15 to BS-16. Any APS holding BS-16 prior to upgradation, can draw two premature increments w.e.f. 23.12.2011 as allowed on promotion in the same scale.
I cannt understand that in ur above comment in which u r saying that two premature increments on upgradation.of the post of PAS from BS-15 to BS-16 and Selection Grade BS-16 have only one premature increment within same scale..
but u r saying that two premature increment....can u explain us
I leanred news about the increasing of rental ceiling of govt. employees...recommended by the Ministry of Housing Committee. 1.Employees.............BPS-1 to BPS-16 = 50% 2. Employees............BPS-17 and above =25%
If any one have true information...kindly share...it here.......
Dear Awan Sb. AOA Any APS holding BS-16 prior to 23.12.2.11 is entitled two premature increments on upgradation of the post from BS-15 to BS-16. The point is that when any official is promoted to higher grade, his pay is fixed in the higher scale increasing to some extent and then he avail one premature increment. Meaning by he enjoy benefit of more than one increment. Similarly in the same scale upgrdation or promotion the official is entitled two premature increments instead of one. My contact Nos. are 062/9255262 & 0301-7710950
Khalid Bhai AOA Is web site ka time drust karein please. Me ne comments 11.31 AM per 7 January ko upload keay hein jabkey is ka time 11.31 PM on 6 January aa raha he. Please time & date darust karein. Thanks
Rahim Bakhash bhi, AOA. Yes emplopyees promoted in same scalete are eigible for two increments, but some departments are not even ready tjo allow one increment.I would like to request to Khalid Bhai to contact CGA and open and clear clarification be sough in this reagard and put on this site to enable all of us to get fixatrion of pay in same samce scale promotion. Till today many colleagues are facing to CAO office particularly.Their plea is that one increment was given at the tike of selection grade and now fixation and premature increment can not be give.I wrot to CGA, Islamabad , but, all in vain. No reply from the CGA office is received to me. Rahim bhai ,if you have payslip of any friend who is got fixation in same scale plese inform and send to me. Sabir Chauhan, Lahore 0300-4663778
Dear Chohan Sb. AOA. Their plea is totally wrong as the Selection Scale, Upgradation and Promotion are separate issues and the officials are entitled premature increment on every event. The Government of Pakistan has clarified the position and issued two Office Memorandums. I am employee of Federal Government and I have got refixed my pay in BS-16 and two increments have to allowed to me being upgradation in the same scale. Please intimate your FAX No. so that I may fax my Revised Pay Slip to you.
I leanred news about the increasing of rental ceiling of govt. employees...recommended by the Ministry of Housing Committee. 1.Employees.............BPS-1 to BPS-16 = 50% 2. Employees............BPS-17 and above =25%
If any one have true information...kindly share...it here.......
AOA, Rahim Bakhsh bhai, please sen my copy of your revised pay slip o the following address; Sabir Chauhan, 159-A, Ali Street, Rehman Park, Near Wafaqi Colony, Lahore of E-Mail sabir_chauhan6@yahoo.com Fax No.042-35300921 not working now a days.
My dear Rahim Bakhash, AOA.All the orders regarading upgaradation and thereafter benefits are available even then some departments are relluctant to issue the revised pay slips in case of same scale promotees. Whether you havae read my comments above, please see and send me you revised pay slip at the earliest possible or paste on this forum.
Thanks dear Rahim bhai, I am just waiting for it, tody I visited AGPR, Lahore they told that two increments are allowed by FD and copy has also been obtained and sent to Head Office On receiving this I shall send it to HQ for issuance of revised pay slip Sabir Chauhan Lahore
Rahim Bhai,AOA your currier is not yet received. It should be reached today without any delay.Anyhow, I am waiting for it's receiving. Good news is still awaited the forum is in suspense and remours are increasing in different ways. Let it ? Sabir Chauhan
Dear Chauhan Sb. I sent pay slip on 13.01.2014 and 14th January was holiday. The same should have reached on 15th but not reached. Let us wait the same. The pay slip must reach today. If good news is regarding rent ceiling we may not wait for the same as the same will be beneficial for the employees posted in only 4/5 big cities.
Dear Rahim Bakhash bhai, thanks I received pay slip today. Good News may be probably regarding 20%, because, Government has to reply to the court. Sabir Chauhan
Subject:-SERVICE STRUCTURE/PROMOTION RULES FOR STENO/APS/PS I have taken up above issue on this forum regarding re-designation of all posts of stenos from time to time but no body show their interest/comments, Once again I am giving my proposal which is given below:- S.NO. CURRENT POST REDESIGNATION POST 1. Stenotypist (BPS-14) Personal Assistant (BPS-14) 2. Assistant Private Secretary (BPS-16) Assistant Private Secretary (BPS-16) 3. Private Secretary (BPS-17) Deputy Private Secretary (BPS-17) 4. Private Secretary (BPS-18) Additional Private Secretary (BPS-18) 5. Senior Private Secretary (BPS-19) Private Secretary (BPS-19) 6. Senior Private Secretary (BPS-20) Senior Private Secretary (BSP-20)
FOR PROMOTIONS/TIME SCALES It is further proposed that for promotions/ time scales for steno community criteria is as under:- S.NO. CURRENT POST REDESIGNATION POST PROMOTIONS/TIME SCALES 1. Stenotypist (BPS-14) Personal Assistant (BPS-14) 3 YEARS SERVICE IN BS-14 2. Asstt. Private Secretary (BPS-16) Assistant Private Secretary (BPS-16) 5 YEARS SERVICE IN BS-16 3. Private Secretary (BPS-17) Deputy Private Secretary (BPS-17) 7 YEARS SERVICE IN BS-17 4. Private Secretary (BPS-18) Additional Private Secretary (BPS-18) 9 YEARS SERVICE IN BS-18 5. Senior Private Secretary (BPS-19) Private Secretary (BPS-19) 11 YEARS SERVICE IN BS-19 6. Senior Private Secretary (BPS-20) Senior Private Secretary (BSP-20) 15 YEARS SERVICE IN BS-20
The promotions/time scales will automatically move next grade when ever their promotion will be due without the condition availability of posts because current position is that if seats will be available then the person will go to next grade promotion which is not acceptable at any cost because in this situation our colleagues are/will retire/ing in one grade because very few posts are available for promotion of BPS-17. Now the question is raised here that who will do all of these activities. The Answer is that We have one Hero who is Mr. Khalid Riaz and he can achieve this target. Any mistake in my proposal is highly regretted please. Hope my colleagues will give their positive comments/suggestions.
Dear Khalid Bhai, Thanks for reply on above proposal and i request you to kindly make the amentment/correction on the above proposal as you want. Respectful Regards, Zulfiqar Awan
Attn: Mr. Ejaz Ahmad. Secretary Finance, Government of the Punjab is not ready to grant premature increment on upgradation, number of times summary put up to Secretary but he did not forwarding the same to Chief Minister Punjab. Please pray.
Thank you for giving latest information regarding implementation of pre-mature increment on this forum and I also appreciate your struggle as well as your entire team regarding the grant of pre-mature increment in the province of Punjab. I hope that a day ll come when the Secretary Finance forwards our request to the Hon'le Chief Minster Punjab as Finance Department, Government of Pakistan has already implemented the same. INSHALLAH
10% quota case still in Islamabad High Court.......Hearing expected in the 2nd week of February. 4 tier per exercise ho rahi ha establishment division ma aur wo BPS-1 to BPS-16 tak k liye ha... Jald hi wo finalize ho jai ga. Junhi koi result nikle ga ..... App sub doston ko Agah kar diya jai ga.... Rahi Baat ma 3 saal k intezar kiyon kar raha hoon tu agar aik kam asani se ho sakta ha tu court ki taraf kiyon rijo kiya jai.... Haan agar masla hal na ho tu phir hamarey pas options hain.
Dear Colleagues, AOA.. I gone through all of your comments and noted that except one colleague all are interested only in good news.Whereas our demand for time scale from 23.12.2011 as vide para of F.D dated 23..12.2011, wherein one time next scale to P.S.already in B-17 is granted B-18. The Selection Grade Stenographers and Stenotypists be allowed one time next scale immediately. Time scale formula may be allowed after completion of up gradated persons after 3 years. If it is not give from back to deprived stenos resultantly, deprived stenos will retied from services in the same scales as mostly happening. We should devoted our struggles on this one point in the first instance.The department having no post of PS etc. how they will get the promotion in the next scale
.Dear Brothers, Assalam-o-Aleikum Kindly share the names and contact numbers of those deprived APS who have filed case in Islamabad High Court for BPS 17 and other benefits. There is an APS who wants to join them in the Court. Regards, Iqbal Mangrio APS MCC Hyderabad 0301-2241306
AoA, Dear colleagues,The peoples in Ministries are well ware of every thing, but I am sorry to say that they are not interested, because they are getting maximum benefits and there are posts of PS in every ministry and at their terms they will be promoted Hence, they are not taking interest in matters of deprived employees. Still the benefit of same scale promotion and upgradations are not being extended to all entitled persons in many departments. Sabir Chauhan
Many thanks to all of you and particularly to my brother Mr. Chuhan who always fought our fight as front runner and always extended his valued advice to our brother and leader, Mr. Khalid Riaz. By going through your ever valued comments, I have concluded that your got a great grasp over government service matters particularly regarding APS/PS cadre, I therefore, sought your kind help and guidance on the following issues;
i). Why Mr. Khalid is waiting for 03 years period to go for BS-17 for APS as our brothers in accounts deptt have got their posts up-graded twice during I think one year first from BS-11 to 14 and then 16, then how can we not got for next scale, which was our basic demand when we register the case in FST but we were given only 16, whereas PS got the maximum benefits and now they are even enjoying promotion till BS-19 in the shape of time scale, but we could not get any time scale for APS as yet, comment, please
ii). Mr. Khalid have once given us good news that special PA of APS/PS is going to be increased, what happened to that case?
iii). The main problem we all brothers are facing in our govt departments that we do not have any/enough seats for P.S as only a BS-21 office can be given P.S, in my opinion, a simple solution to this problem is that PS entitlement may be extended to BS-20 officers, this way our maximum brothers can be promoted as P.S and their onward it is smooth sailing, because there is a time scale for P.S to get promotion up to BS-19, your valued comments, please
iv). Why not a time scale like teachers and P.S can not be ensured for our deprived cadre i.e. APS
v). Sorry to say when we were Stenographer we were stuck in BS-15 as there was no further promotion for us and now when we are APS and in BS-16, now once again we are once again more stuck-up in this scale, any way out sir?
vi). Last but not the least that we as APS can not get any financial benefit except that of special pay of Rs. 320/- month that too for those who are attached with BS-20 officers, late sitting allowance was for the first time a benefit was given to our deprived category but after being promoted as APS (BPS-16),d this unitary benefit has also been withdrawn. A simple formula to extend this facility to APS is that word non-gazetted may be removed as there is no BS-16 non gazetted grade in Pakistan, if someone is in BS-16, he is gazetted, my brother can give his expert advice on the issue. You can also interact with me on my following e-mail address;
friendswah1971@gmail.com
Stay blessed, ameen and thanks a lot in advance for your valued time.
Many thanks to all of you and particularly to my brother Mr. Chuhan who always fought our fight as front runner and always extended his valued advice to our brother and leader, Mr. Khalid Riaz. By going through your ever valued comments, I have concluded that your got a great grasp over government service matters particularly regarding APS/PS cadre, I therefore, sought your kind help and guidance on the following issues;
i). Why Mr. Khalid is waiting for 03 years period to go for BS-17 for APS as our brothers in accounts deptt have got their posts up-graded twice during I think one year first from BS-11 to 14 and then 16, then how can we not got for next scale, which was our basic demand when we register the case in FST but we were given only 16, whereas PS got the maximum benefits and now they are even enjoying promotion till BS-19 in the shape of time scale, but we could not get any time scale for APS as yet, comment, please
ii). Mr. Khalid have once given us good news that special PA of APS/PS is going to be increased, what happened to that case?
iii). The main problem we all brothers are facing in our govt departments that we do not have any/enough seats for P.S as only a BS-21 office can be given P.S, in my opinion, a simple solution to this problem is that PS entitlement may be extended to BS-20 officers, this way our maximum brothers can be promoted as P.S and their onward it is smooth sailing, because there is a time scale for P.S to get promotion up to BS-19, your valued comments, please
iv). Why not a time scale like teachers and P.S can not be ensured for our deprived cadre i.e. APS
v). Sorry to say when we were Stenographer we were stuck in BS-15 as there was no further promotion for us and now when we are APS and in BS-16, now once again we are once again more stuck-up in this scale, any way out sir?
vi). Last but not the least that we as APS can not get any financial benefit except that of special pay of Rs. 320/- month that too for those who are attached with BS-20 officers, late sitting allowance was for the first time a benefit was given to our deprived category but after being promoted as APS (BPS-16),d this unitary benefit has also been withdrawn. A simple formula to extend this facility to APS is that word non-gazetted may be removed as there is no BS-16 non gazetted grade in Pakistan, if someone is in BS-16, he is gazetted, my brother can give his expert advice on the issue. You can also interact with me on my following e-mail address;
friendswah1971@gmail.com
Stay blessed, ameen and thanks a lot in advance for your valued time.
AOA,to all of my colleques,Ab taak jitni jedoo jehad Khalid Riaz bahi,nain ais community kay liay ki hay aus kaa badala koi ada nahi karsakta,baghair kis lalich aur tama kay aus ki ais jadoo jehad kay nateja main tamam officials kaa cadar officer main tabdeel hoogia,aur aus ki jadoo jehad abhi khatam nahi hoi,aur woo last target hasal karnain ki kooshis main laga howa hay,liqan yay berucracy,abhi taak fst kay liay chairman kay taqarar kaa faisala nana karsaki aur fst non functional honain ki waja say depreived stenographers kay case kaa faisla nan hoo saka ,aur umeed hay jab fst functional hoo jay gee too faisala ais community kay haq main he hooga,woo din door nahi jab yay target bhee yay tamam community kaa hero hasil karlay gaa.
AOA, dear FST waly case ka hero apna colleague jo National Savings sy hay hoga. agar FST non-functional hay to dosri courts mojood hain move kia ja sakta hay koi panandi ni. ab serf deprived hi interested hain baqi waqat pas kr rahy hain payaray.
Assalam o Alaikum Chauhan sb..... sahi farmaya actual hero deprived se hi hoga..... ma ne ye koshish hero ban ney k liye nahi ki...... aur Hero filmo ma hota ha aur ye film nahi ha balke haqiqat ha..... ma app ma se hoon ab har case ma court ma fight nahi kar sakta wo tabi ho sakta ha jab app k pass cause of action ho......ab bhi hum aik case ma exercise kar rahe hain dua karin Allah hamain kamyab kare.......ma dobara kehna chahoon ga k na ma hero hoon aur na mujhe hero pukara jai..... Thanks.
AOA,Sabir Chauhan suhaib ,Khalid Riaz Bahai say main mil chuka hoon,woo depreived kay liay bhe muklis hay,liqan jab case fst main hay,too ab sirf wohi faisla karain gay ,doosri courts too bad main hongi,phelay fst kaa faisala hoga tab doosri bari hogi,fst functional hoogi too fasala umeed hay hamara haq main he hooga,qunakay ab pori stenographers community hamaray sath hay.
AOA,MR.KHALID RIAZ BAHAI,aur MR.Sabir Chauhan Suhaib ,yay batain,kay main 2002,main BPS-15,koo permanant post per purmote howa,aur pher 2007,koo BPS-16,2001,say moveover howa,aur back BPS-15,main aa gia,aur 23.12.11,taak BPS-15,main he same grade main he raha ,jab taak post upgrade nahi hoi thee,kia main special increment kaa haqdar hoon jis ka order ab howa hay aur aus main 7.9.2007,say allow kia gia hay,ais kaa jawab ais foam per dekar maskoor farmain.
Dear Raihan bhai,jab move over khatam hua to sab wapas apny scale mn a gy aur wo chapter close ho gia, is leya wo period aur increment countable ni rahi. Ab upgradation date sy hi fixation + premature mily gi. Main move over B=17 sy wapas B-16 mn aya tha hamari fixtion abhi tak ni ow rahi k selection grade k waqat fixation hoi thi dobara ni ho sakti. 19.1.2014 ko premature increment ka order hua magar same scale fixation ni mil rahi.
thanks,Dear Sabir Chuhan bhai,kay app nain tafseel say wizia position batadee,abhi,kpk,walay,february main premature increments kay allowed honay kaa notificaion jari kardain gay pher dekain gaay agar zindigi nain wafa ki too.booth booth sukria.
My friend, Mr. Javaid Iqbal who is working as UDC in Regional Tax Office, Faisalabad (is also Dy: Secty: Genl of their department union) has inormed that in case of payment of 20% special allowance to all federal govt employees, the Islamabad High Court has again directed the Ministry of Finance to issue notification till 28th Februrary, 2014 and repot compliance.
As tole my a reasonable Friend from Audit Department that on 3rd February,2014 the decision was kept pending by the honourable judge of Islamabad High Court, hence 95% can be confirmed. Sabir Chauhan, Lahore
Dear Shehzad Khan, Thanks I read your E-mail, please give me few days for collection of proof to give you reasonable reply with some references from some other departments for your guidance
Thanks a lot Sabir bhai for your ever expeditious reply. We all have one aim in common that we all want to do something great for this deprived class called Stenographer/APS who work most in every deptt but gets less in reward. It should be out combine motto and thanks God it is to not let any body dictate us any more and try to grab better promotion channels and incentives for this devoted class which is not difficult for them as they work with the highest ranked officers like Joint Secy, Secy, Ministers etc then why they are lagging behind in all frontiers. Join hands to achieve this combine goal of us. I am waiting for your expert advice.
Islamabad High Court fixed the date of hearing 28-2-2014 for implementation of 20% speical allowance for all federal govt employees.Notification must be issued till 28-2-2014 and the same provided to the Court on 28-2-2014.
Is it correct news or not???????? Any one have correct news.......... Regards,
AOA,Tamam colleques,koo,ais fourms say tamam good news apas main aik dosaray kay sath share karnain kaa aik apna he maza hay,aur her waqat ham koo Rabullallahmeen kaa shukria ada karnan chai,kay ham koo Aik Hero Haji Khalid Riaz bhai ki shakal main mil gia aur kisi lalach aur tema kay baghair aus nain aur aus ki poori team nain apni jehadoo jehad jari rakhi aur ham sab koo officials say officer kay cadar main badal deia,aur agay tamam joo inservice hain unkoo terqi kay moowaqay in future mohia kar deiay,aur inshallah depreived stenographers kaa case bhee decide hoo jay gaa jab fst kay chairman kaa taqrar howa too ham Rtd,koo bhee BPS-17 mil jay gaa 23.12.11,say.liqan ham provincial mulazameen nain unkay liay kuch nahi kia tamam provincial mulazameen say request ki jati hay kay woo apnain hero say rapata rakain aur aus ki financial madad zaroor karain.
The Ombudsman Punjab, decided the complaint filed by Mr. Shoukat Ali Wattoo,o/o DGPR,Lahore on 30-01-2014 and forwarded to the Finance Deptt. and S&GAD Deptt for implement the decision within one month. Pray for God for better luck.
The Ombudsman Punjab, decided the complaint filed by Mr. Shoukat Ali Wattoo,o/o DGPR,Lahore on 30-01-2014 and forwarded to the Finance Deptt. and S&GAD Deptt for implement the decision within one month of Selection Grade Stenographer BS-15 to BS-16 . Pray for God for better luck.
AOA,tamam colleques koo qabool hoo,aaj,daily mashriq main aik khabar ai hay kay provincial govt:KPK,nain 30% special allowance secretariat and chief minister secretariat walloon koo dainay kaa faisala karlia hay,liqan ab taak hamari premature increment lataki hoo hay,ais kaa faisala bhee agar as soon as possible hoo kar dain too boot acha hoga.
School Education Department Punjab mein Teaching Staff k liye upward mobility package hai PST BS-9 ko BS-12 & 14, EST BS-14 ko BS-15 & 16 and SST BS-16 ko BS-17 & 18 dia jata hai aur in-service promotion bhi di jati hai 50%. Clerical Staff k liye yeh package kiun ni? is pr kiun koi protest ni karta k clerical k liye be in-service promotion k sath sath mobility package dia jaye.
School Education Department mein Assistant Director BS-17 ki posts clerical ki hai ab Superintendent aur Stenographer BS-16 same scale mein hain.2nu cadres ko 100% promotion milni chahye as Assistant Director. lekin 70% posts Teaching side ko di hui hain Govt. ne jis se Clerical staff ki further promotion ni hoti.
The Islamabad High Court has again issued the orders on 4th February 2014 in connection with the 20% Special Relief Allowance 2013 to all the Federal Govt Employees and the deadline has been given till 28-02-2014. Some points of this decision are as under:
Official in attendant submit that the summary with regard to Special Allowance @ 20% was submitted to the Honourable Prime Minister for approval and there were certain quarries, however after answering the same summary has been again submitted to the Honourable PM for taking final decision about the matter. Further submit that they are not in position to tell any specific date for the approval of the summary, however showed their expectance that the same will be returned within three weeks. Officials in attendant are directed to submit follow up letter in terms of order passed by this court so that this issue may be settled as the employees of different departments are lurking in the arena of uncertainty since long and approaching the court time and again. It is expected that the authority shall take the final decision by the end of this month i.e 28-02-2014.
Please convey the updates regarding the pre-mature increment case and upgradation of clerical staff as ordered by the Honourable Ombudsman Punjab, Lahore.
AOA,to all of my colloquis ,main ajj,SR-11,AUR SR-1,finance department kpk,kay pass gia premature increment kay mutalaq maloomat lainay kay liay,unka jawab thaa,kay financial application ki information abi taak muqamal nahi hoi,jab muqamal hoo jay too ,pher kuch further proceeding hoo gi umeed hay 1 or 2 months kay darmian may notification hoo jay.
Second. After upgradation there should be some fellows to stand and other to follow them to watch their line of promotion (time scale) for APS. If Mr. Khalid has no time.
Dear Abid, white colour one page ACR form is already ment for B-16, if the ACR is prior to 2012 then non-gazetted white form will used. Secondly a colleague from National Savings Department has filed petition in FST, but due to non availability of Chairman case is pending, hence wait for decision. So far as Mr. Kahlid is concerned his is trying for the best but it will take time, if he struggles for deprived then it will be easy for newly promoted in B-16. Khalid bhai is a rich man he can afford the expenses occurred on petitions etc. Has any body can spend money on it, if so then every thing is possible as Inspector of Income Tax has upgraded twicely in a year.
Dear Abid, AOA. I checked my documents and learnt that after B-16 treated as Gazetted, the PER form is modified and consisted of 5 pages which can easily be downloaded from Establishment Division website only writing PER for BPS-16 If not possible then float your address by Dak. Sabir Chauhan, Lahore
Raihan Bhai kaisy hain ap. Achi news ka season aur log gy. Serf Allah ko yad krain jo in k dil main dosoroon ka ehsas paida kry. warna in k apny pet hi nain bhar rahay. 20% special pay aur deprived case lay k bethay hain. Sabir Chauhan
AOA,to all of my colleques,aur Sabir Chauhan bahai kaa bhee booth booth shukar guzar hoon kay woo ais fourm per kuch khatay aur kuch metay comments sent kartay rehatay hain ,her colleques in khatay aur metay chatkaroon kaa maza leta rehta hay,liqan in chatkaroon kaa jawab hamari govt: ki terf say koi musbat nahi,ab dehkoo,30% special allowance too kpk main governer ,aur secretarate mulazameen koo denain kaa order too fori kardia hay,aur hamara case financial application ki waja say latak rahah hay,aur chairman fst kaa masala federal govt: nain latkaia howa hay,aur jan boj kar depreived stenographers kaa case hal karnain main letoo lal say kam lay raihay hain,kab aqal aayay gee inko,Allah reham kar inki halatay zar per .
Dear Chauhan Sb, Assalam-o-Alaikum Sir, as you told this forum that BS-16 PER can download from Establishment Division but there is no PER of BS-16 officers. Where from you get PER form of BS-16 officers. You are requested to kindly tell us where from we can get or download this PER FORM FOR BS-16 OFFICERS
Please convey the updates regarding the pre-mature increment case and upgradation of clerical staff as ordered by the Honourable Ombudsman Punjab, Lahore.
AOA all collegues, PML-N ki hakomat mein to kuch acha hona na mumkin hai jb to hr cadre roads py a k strike na kry tb tk pre-mature ya aur kuch ni mile ga.
Dear Abid and Awan Bhai, AOA. How are you. For getting a copoy of PER for BPS-16 Open the website of Establishment Division later write on the top PER from for BPS-16 then inter in few moment you will see form consisting of 5 pages and can copied as per your requirement. If is loaded on the forum it will covered a huge area. Sabir Chauhan Lahore
Chuahan Bhai now I am on the site of establishment division but there is no PER form for BPS 16 where we can get it please can you sent to my email id rsa4985@gmail.com. Thanks if you e mail to me
Dear colleagues, Please write Establishment Division, website will be opend and see at serial number 5 "PDF Confidential Report Form for Stenographer/Stenotypist and click. Now they have clear for Stenos other than BPS-16 Sabir Chauhan
Did any Assistant Private Secretary got 15% Medical Allowance from AGPR or not? Our deptt. is avoiding to implement the order of Finance Division. Kindly share this info here.
Further what is the status of 20% special allowance because the court deadline was 28-2-2014
AOA,tamam colleques koo,aus kay bad urz ki jati hay,kay app zaroor ais say itifaq karain gay,kay,Masjid zarar*jisko ham Lal Masjid Khetay, hain tamam fasad ki jar hay aur ais main two brothers dog Abdul Raseed aur Dog Abdul Aziz hain,aik too murdar hoo juka hay,aur doosara apni harqatoon say baz nahi atta,Islamabad court main Dehshat gardi kaa wiqia bhee inhino nain he kawia hay,qunkay Islamabad main aur dehshat gardoon koo pana denain ki koi jaga nahi hay,lihaza tamam muslaman in per lanth bejain aur in say howshir rahain.
Finance Division filed ICA in the Supreme Court. They are going to Allow 20% to the Petitioners only. Summary is still with Minister Finance. And 4 tier (Time Scale) is in process in Establishment Division.
PML (N) govt always have a history to not pay anything to govt servant, very sorry to say but it is hard truth. The govt can not give 20% only to the petitioners as Islamabad High Court have already ordered to extend this 20% allowance to all the federal ministries/division/attached deptts as it was a clear cut anomaly to all the affected deptts. In contradiction to Federal govt's stance that this 20% allowance will only be given to those who are working in Islamabad Ministries, the people who are serving in other deptts in CMA and Finance are also enjoying this benefit, which is anomaly to all other deptts.
In the light of Para 1(a) Finance Division (Regulations Wing)’s Office Memorandum No. 1(5)Imp/2011(Pt)-902 dated 21.10.2013, you are entitled for Medical Allowance @ Rs.1,262/- per month with effect from 23.12.2011 according to the following calculation:-
On 30.06.2011 your Basic Pay in BS-15 of BPS-2008 was Rs.7,740/- per month.
On 30.06.20111 your Basic Pay in the relevant BS-16 of BPS-2008 would be Rs.7,940/ per month.
On 30.06.2011 your Basic Pay in the relevant BS-16 of BPS-2008 [after allowing one premature increment of Rs.470/- on up-gradation from BS-15 to BS-16, vide Finance Division (Regulations Wing)’s Office Memoranda No. 11(4)R-2/2011-1153/2013 dated 31.05.2013, would be Rs.8,410/- per month.
15% Medical Allowance of Rs.8,410/- comes to Rs.1,262/-
Suppose that your Basic Pay in BS-15 of BSS-2008 on 30.06.2011 (prior to inception of BPS-2011 i.e. before 01.07.2011) was Rs,7,740/- per month then in the light of Para 1(a) Finance Division (Regulations Wing)’s Office Memorandum No. 1(5)Imp/2011(Pt)-902 dated 21.10.2013, you are entitled for Medical Allowance @ Rs.1,262/- per month with effect from 23.12.2011 according to the following calculation:-
On 30.06.2011 your Basic Pay in BS-15 of BPS-2008 was Rs.7,740/- per month.
On 30.06.20111 your Basic Pay in the relevant BS-16 of BPS-2008 would be Rs.7,940/ per month.
On 30.06.2011 your Basic Pay in the relevant BS-16 of BPS-2008 [after allowing one premature increment of Rs.470/- on up-gradation from BS-15 to BS-16, vide Finance Division (Regulations Wing)’s Office Memoranda No. 11(4)R-2/2011-1153/2013 dated 31.05.2013, would be Rs.8,410/- per month.
15% Medical Allowance of Rs.8,410/- comes to Rs.1,262/-
I have learned the news that Govt of Pakistan, Finance Division is going to issue notification of 20% special allowance for only those deptt whose went to court for justice in Islamabad High Court but they will not give this allowance to those federal govt employees whose did not go to Court.
Further Finance Division is also going to INTRA COURT APPEAL in the Supreme Court of Pakistan against the decision of Islamabad High Court in which court issued orders for the implementation of 20% speicall allowance to all federal govt employees.
This is totally injustice if Finance Division will give the allowance to only petitioners.................. If any one have info plz share it on this forum.
AOA,all of my colleques,Tamam problems hal hoo jainy gay,agar hamri establishment ham poor mulazameen kay favour main hoo,abhi taak too fst main chairman kaa taqrar bhee nahi karsaki hamri establishment,nan unko ham say koi lagaoo hay,yay ab taak joo bhee howa woo sirf Honourable courts nain he kia hay ,establishment walay too bus sirf 8 say 4 oclock taak time pass kar rahy hain.
My doubt has successfully completed. If we try for time scale for deprived stenos there should be no time limit for 3 years. Deprived can get time scale immediately and newly upgraded automatically granted time scale after completion of 3 years service without any delay. No after 3 years case will be moved and than granted time scale which may take time less or more. Now what will you say my deprived colleagues on star-rice comments above please? Sabir Chauhan
Dear Chuhan Sb. AOA You have very rightly said. Time Scale should be granted automatically. No DPC or approval of the higher authorities should be involved. What is the latest position of this case ? In FST time is being wasted. Any other option may be opted.
AOA,all of colleques,bad uraz yay hay,kay ham depreived koo too 1.12.01,say BPS-16,dekar,dictator,nain tamam beedeenoo koo aur including Talaban kay jaday amjad,Samiul haq koo bhee dollars kay badalay main gareed kar aik galat amendment karakar unconstitutional assembly say pass karakar tamam mulazameen koo dobara previous scale main fix kardeia,yay nainsafi nahi too aur kia hay,pher ham dobara,Hero of stenographers ki jedojehad kay nataja main BPS-16 main 23.12.11, KOO,upgrade howay,yani aik scale main two dafa,yay bhee khuli dehsat gardi thee,aur ab agar new stenographers ,aur depreived stenographers,BPS-16 MAIN upgrade howay ,too new kayliay too teek hay 3 years completion per WOO BPS=17,kay haqdar automatically hoo jain gay,liqan nainsafi too deprieved kay sath howi,ais kaa azala koon karay gaa.
I time and again requested and drawn kind attention of my dedicated APS to guide me why we are waiting for this 03 years tenure. The teachers did not waited for any three years and they have been granted time scale, very rightly too. P.S were granted time scale without waiting for any three years period, very rightly too, but why we are stuck to this so called three years condition, can not understand this excuse? If FST is not functional, or it may not be functional till Qayamat, can we wait that long, why do not we explore/try new venues for our just struggle like Islamabad High Court or any other High court. CMA people have been up-graded twice within a year or two and they were not asked to wait for 03 years then we are being waiting to complete this 03 years. CMA people have been up-graded way back from 2007, they why not we try to get our up-gradation way back to 2000 or even earlier, we should take good things from any other cadre with open heart so we can do better for our class, betterment of APS cadre is our unitary cause for which we all are united. Any word/advice on my questions from my learned brothers.
I time and again requested and drawn kind attention of my dedicated APS to guide me why we are waiting for this 03 years tenure. The teachers did not waited for any three years and they have been granted time scale, very rightly too. P.S were granted time scale without waiting for any three years period, very rightly too, but why we are stuck to this so called three years condition, can not understand this excuse? If FST is not functional, or it may not be functional till Qayamat, can we wait that long, why do not we explore/try new venues for our just struggle like Islamabad High Court or any other High court. CMA people have been up-graded twice within a year or two and they were not asked to wait for 03 years then we are being waiting to complete this 03 years. CMA people have been up-graded way back from 2007, they why not we try to get our up-gradation way back to 2000 or even earlier, we should take good things from any other cadre with open heart so we can do better for our class, betterment of APS cadre is our unitary cause for which we all are united. Any word/advice on my questions from my learned brothers.
how much benefit get in time scale after three years to those stonographers / stenotypists who were recently upgraded on 23-12-2011 from BS-12 to BS-14 ???????. whether stenographers / stenotypists (newly upgraded) avail the next scale after three years???????
AOA,all of my colleques un koo too joo recently upgraded hain govt:kay notification main time scale day deia gia hay means kay 3 years complete karnain kay bad,ab masla sirf deprieved stenograpehrs kaa hay 23.12.2011,say inshallah jab Chairman FST kaa taqrar hoga too Hamaray sab kay Hero ki jehdoo hehad zaroor rang layay gee aur ham koo bhee hamara haq mil jay gaa tamam poblems hal hoo jain gay liqan zara sabar ki zaroot hay,quankay hamri establishment susat ravi say kam karti hay aur jab taak koi pressure nana hoo yay aus waqat taak sirf time pass kartay hain.Premature increment kaa case financial application ki waja say KPK main pending hay aur boot susti say kam lia jaa rahah hay 15 months hogay hain notificaton kay intazar main betain hain Allah inko aqal day.
Would u please let me know about Revision of Rental Ceiling, as on 30.06.2014 three years period on last rental ceiling revision would be complete. If someone have information about it, kindly share. Thank u
t is very clear from the comments of Khalid Bhai about time scale that there is no such case for deprived. If time scale is give after 3 years few deprived stenos will be in service. The stenos already in B-16 from 1996 or later and stenos upgraded on 23.12.2011 will be equally placed in time scale which is a serious injustice with deprived. In this regard my comments dated 11.3.2014 be read. I no some colleagues does not like my comments even than I tried to inform the upcoming clear situation . Sabir Chauhan Lahore
AOA,to all of my colleaques and Sabir Chauhan Bahai,your comments like to all but ,iswaqat joo bhee fst fasila kargi woo 23.12.2011,say he karagi,qunkay,Honourable supreme court of Pakistan nain apna complete decision day deia hay,aus ki tasreh ab yay fst samaj kar karay gi,aur deprieved stenos 23.12.2011,say he mustafeed hongay aus say pehelay kay nahi,ab joo bhee hoga woo 23.12.11,say he hoga,aus kay under joo ayany gay woo ais say faida utalain gay .qunkay ab gooli 23.12.11,say tamam harmioon ,yani Musarf,Samiull haq,Ijazul haq,aur Gani ki ulad kay sanain main pewasat hoo chuki hay jin ki waja say tamam mulazameen mushkal main paray hain,aur in tamam koo ab siza bhee qudrat ki terf say unkareeb mil jay gee.
i means to say that what expected scale will be given to the Junior Scale Steno / Stenotypists (newly upgraded from BS-12 to BS-14 in Federal & Provincial) in time scale after 03 years
if some one have information about this please share on the same
AOA,to all,its means ,kay joo stenotypist BS-14 main hain woo direct 3 years bad BS-16,main hoo jain gay,aur BS-16 walay BS-17,main,aik baat aur hay,kay BS-15,ki dermian main post he nahi hay,BS-14 say BS-16 ,main hongay,yahan too jaghra laga how hay old stenographers-BS-15,kaa joo deprieved hain aur aik bar BS-16,2001,main laykar unko doobara BS-15,main kardeia gia asay aur booth mulazameen hain clerical cadar main bhee.
AOA,to all ,of my colleagues,Joo Stenographers/stenotypist 1994,say yaa badd main selection grade lay chukay hain aur woo 23.12.11,taak,ausi aik scale main upgradation taak rahay hain woo bhee special advance increment kay haqdar hain,agar woo 2001,YAA 2002 main apni regular post per ausi scale main hogay hoon jasay ham ab 1994 selection grade aur 2001,main promotion/upgradation laykar BPS-15,HE main 23.12.11,taak rahay hain ab 22.12.11 taak advance increment kay haqdar hain,23.12.11,say BPS-16 ,main upgrade howay hain,aik premature increment kay bhee haqdar hain,joo federal mulazameen laychukay hain,sirf provincials govt:ki terf say notification jari honin kay bad parents departments koo apni applications submit karain gay.Yay comments main abee recently audit fficer A.G.office KPK,peshawar say lengthy discussion kay bad publish kar rahah hoon.
AOA to all colleagues, Raihan Bhai, neither Stenotypist nor Stenographer will be placed in the next scale untill time scale to deprived is not allowed first.The newly upgraded stenographers will automatically be allowed after completion of 3 years as APS The Stenotypist are already eligible for promotion as APS B-16 if post is available in his department otherwise Graduation and authority is PSC for direct appointment.So time scale for for deprived is must in reference to para-2 of S.No.1 of O.M dated 23.12.2011. Time scale direct for upgraded stenos will not be allowed because there is no reason and precedent for them only precedent is for deprived. peoples says that 2 years have been completed and after one year time scale will be granted is lolly pop which is pleas of common sense. Sabir Chauhan
AOA,Sabir Chauhan bahai,and my all collequeas ,Apkay comments bilkal dursat hain,liqan jis waqat yay ham RTD,hoqay hain too hamaray janasheenoo nain hamri jaga sanbal lie hay,asi tera posts bhee available hojain gee,jis kay joo naseeb main hay aus koo mil jay gaa,liqan agar pehelay say koi qanoon ais baray main moojood hoo too rata ban jata hay,aik Hero ki waja say kitnain hamaray colleaques,mustafeed hoochukay hain aur in future bhee hongay koi nana koi rasta anay waloon kayliay nikal aayay gaa.
Raihan bhai mn ny rule ki bat ki hay.Baqi qismat apni apni hoti hay dikhain B-17 waly automatically B-19 min chaly gay. Halanky stenographers ko B-17 ka faisla tha magar ministry ny badmashi sy B-16 dia, daleel aur rule sy bat ki jay to achi lagti hay betuki bat ka koi faida ni hota. Sabir Chauhan
AOA,Dear Sabir Chauhan Bahai,main aik Audit officer AG KPK,office say yesterday mulaqat karchuka hoon,aus nain kaha kay,joo Stenographers upgradation taak BPS-15 main thay woo aik special increment kay haqdar hain,qunkay woo same pay scale main thay.according to finance division kay letter kay mutabic ,liqan joo noification ab govt:of kpk nain jari kia hay aus main yay lafaz akhar main likh deia hay kay "these order will be effective from the date of its issuance "yay dt:21.02.2014,koo issue howa hay ,ais kay mutalaq kuch apnain comments dain too booth mehrabani hogi.
Raihan bhai, KPK k orders ghalat hain, AGPR, Punjab and Baluchistan same scale promotion walon ko 2 increments dey rahain hain first on fixation and second pre-mature. Mn ny Wafaqi Mohtasib ky colleagues ki Pay slip ki kapian apny Head office Quetta ke bhej di hain wo jon hi pay slip jari karain gay ap ko bhej don ga. waisy 5.11.2012 ka finance division ka O.M buhat clear hay jo supreme court ky hukam kay bad jari hua hay. Sabir Chauhan, Lahore
Raihan bhai, 2 increments one on fixation in B-16 i.e. same scale promotion and second pre-mature O.M referred above is very clear. I am waiting for pay slip from Head Office Quetta, as soon as it is received I will float it on the forum, if otherwise, I will knock the door of court for my right with reference to the pay slips issued by the AGPR Lahore and Quetta.. Please wait for few days. Sabir Chauhan
Sir as you gave ur comment above that 20% special allowance which was challenged by Finance Division in Islamabad High Court as well as in Supreme Court of Pakistan. Which court suspend the Intra Court Appeal. Islamabad High Court or Supreme Court. Can our hopes are still alive or not????????? Would u like to give your comments on it.
Dear Zulfiqar Bhai intra court appeal was in islamabad high court due which 20% case is suspended It does not mean that case is finished court will fix date for hearing both the parties will give their arguments and than court will reach at decision. It seems that Govt intend to linger on this case upto June. May allah help us and give them courage to help peoples in these hard days. Sabir Chauhan
AOA,to all of my colleaques,Main ajj dated:19.3.2014,koo SR-1.Govt:of KPK,SAY mila aur aus ko written application bama detailed of my service record pash kia ,aur aus nain mutalay kay baad ,muj koo kahaa kay Advance increments sirf Assistant aur clerical staff koo milay gee,Stenographers,sirf premature increment laingay,case financial application kay sath agay higher authorities koo bej deia hay umeed hay ais month kay end taak notification jari hoo jay gaa.Ab notification dekh kar aus kay mutabiq kuch karsakain gaay.
SR-1 sahib ghalat kah rahay hain, agar Assistant and Clerical staff ko mily gi tu stenographers ko kun ni mil sakti Raihan bhai thora sa wait krain aur jin ko fixation and premature ki 2 increments detain hain us ki kapian lain pher dikhtain hain apna rabta number dain bat krain gy Sabir Chauhan
Thanks,Sabir Chauhan Bahai,ham koo honsala dainay aur hamri himat baranay kaa,jab notification KPK,ki terf say jari hojay ,aur apki terf say pay slip ki photo copies mil jay too pher ham kuch kar sakain gaay phil hal apki advice par amal kartay howay thora sa wait kar laingay.
Hope you and all my other APS brothers would be fine and doing great guns. I want to ask a question from my learned brother what is the further scope of promotion for APS in your and all other likewise govt organization. We when we were Stenographers were stuck in BS-15 and now I am afraid we will again be stuck in BS-16. As there looks no further promotion venue for this very dedicated but deprived class. Can you give me your expert opinion on this. Is there any chance for BS-17 for this deprived cadre or is there any chance for restoration of Selection Grade so we can go to BS-17. Is there any chance for time scale as our brother Mr. Khalid have secured for Private Secretaries and they now can penetrate up to BS-19/20 but sorry to say APS are once stuck right in the middle.
AOA Khan Bhai and other colleagues. If you are a regular learner of this forum then you will well versed about my comments about the grant of time scale for deprived stenos This is only the way to open the venue to enter in B-17 for APS, but our dear brother Khalid says that after one year time scale will be allowed to all, in my opinion this is not possible to grant the B-17 to all at a time In my opinion time scale should be allowed first to deprived from 23.12.2011 as B-18 granted to to PS vide sub para-2 of para-1 of O.M dated 23.12.2011 then it will be continued for newly upgraded with some terms and condition that may satisfactorly service of 3 years etc. So far as direct B-17 is concerned which is not possible.Because there are many departments who have not the post of B-21 and 22, where the post of B-20 is available there is not post of PS, hence time scale for deprived is immediately must from 23.12.2011 otherwise there will ne chance of time scale for newly upgraded posts. Thase for time scale is already in FST and due to non existence of Chairman the case is pending without any time limit.Pray to God for appointment of Chairman FST so that the hearing be started and hopefully wait for good news.
Many thanks for your prompt reply but my query is not fully attended, I wish to ask what is the restriction to give time scale to present up-graded APS like govt have given to teaching cadre recently and why not we try to get our up-gradation with back date like our CMA deptt did i.e. way back from 2002 or 2003 etc etc to get maximum financial benefit at least. Also suggest what can be mode of further promotion for APS whether they will retire in BS-16 as they were already retiring in BS-15 when they were stenographer or there is some room for their promotion left and what about selection scale if it is restored, is it not a shortest possible entry to BS-17.
Dear Chauhan Bhai, There is no evidence received from Finance Division to issue such type of letter regarding premature increment for PS bcoz i checked from Finance Division and they are denying to issue such letter. If you have any letter of Finance Division plz display on this forum.
Khan bhai, the restriction to give time scale to newly upgraded person.Time scale is actually compensation for those who are holding a scale for long time, hence the condition for 3 years 7 years service in the present scale is always imposed. The APS have not much service in the grade, hence if time scale is allowed to deprived, it will be easy to grant it to the newly APS after 3 or 5 years as the Govt desired in case of deprived who have in some cases more than 15 years in B-16 by virtue of selection grade. Sabir Chauhan
The shortest entry in B-17 for APS is to grant of time scale to deprived from 23.12.2011 as to PS vide sub para-2 of para-1 of Finance Division O.M dated 23.12.2011 from the back date to those who were in selection grade and move-over to B-17 and from 1.7.2001 the repatriation of seniors in B-16. But, our leaders are trying time scale for newly upgraded which is not possible in this stage. It is then possible if, it is granted to deprived stenos and newly upgraded will be granted automatically after 3-5 years as the conditions may ;be imposed for deprived. This is the responsibility of leaders to take steps for time scales for deprived with reference to PS and Teaching persons. Sabir Chauhan
AOA Raihan bhai and all colleagues, few day ago a news was loaded that time scale PS have been allowed premature increment in light of SR-25 but after 3 days same was removed from the forum. I request to Khalid Bhai, please see who has deleted this, to delete any comment or news is not good practice. Sabir Chauhan
AOA to all colleagues that the up gradation of stenographers w.e.f. 23-12-2011 but the clerical up gradation w.e.f. 2007 the case filed for anti dated promotion w.e.f. 01-07-2007 instead of 23-12-2011 and also added the deprived stenos case including in the new case so all the community benefited. comments for colleagues.
AOA,to all colleaques ,Main Junab Khalid Riaz ,Hero of the all stenographers community say ajj miloon gaa aur ais kay mutalaq aus say mawashara karoon gaa kay aus ki kia ray hay ais issue per per apnain comments doon gaa.
Hope you and all my other brothers would be fine. It has been quite some time now but we could not move an inch forward to our demands.
Grade-17 is not being seen anywhere near Time scale progress is quite slow. Back date up-gradation to BS-16 to Stenographers does not look on the cards at the analogy of Account and Clerical, whey we are not trying to get this up-gradation way back fvrom 2007 or even earlier. Special Pay for those APS who are working with BS-20 or above officers is not increased whereas all other such allowances have been increased by Govt. Late sitting was first time granted to PA when they were in BS-15 @ Rs. 50/day which has not been enhanced to Rs. 100/day but is not being given to APS due to the reason that they are in BS-16 (gazetted). if this restriction of BS-16 can be removed our thousand of APS can get their due share in shape of Rs. 2000/- plus per month, but no step taken to this respect as yet.
It would highly be appreciated if all our members can be briefed/up-dated on the above mentioned points to see the present situation clearly.
AOA, Hay colleagues, now we may say good bye to this forum, because no one is taking interest even bother to reply any query or help.Hence, Hence deprived should choose their own way, as our association is not interesting in our case. Sabir Chauhan
AOA,to all of colleaques,and Mr.Sabir Chauhan Bahi,Baat yay hay kay jab Establishment he intrested nahi hay ,Chairman FST Ki taqrari kay liay too paya kasay challay gaa,woo aur mufad kay kamoon main lagay howay hain jin main unko mali faida hoo,too woo hamray problems main koi dilchaspi nahi latay,case pending hay ab in ko kab aqal aay gee ais kaa elim sirf govt:kay responsible he bata saktay hain Hamray Hero Khalid Riaz subhaib bhee ais liay khamoosh hain kay Chairman kaa taqarar hoo too kuch karain waran agay kuch nahi.
I have learned on facebook that KPK Government has approved the creation of posts of PS (BPS-17) who will work with Special Secretary (BPS-20) and this credit goes to KPK steno Association who worked hard for their rights and press hard for the creations of these posts before that PS BPS-17 allow to only work with BPS-21 AND BPS-22 ranks officers but now they success to create the posts of PS (BPS-17) who will work with BPS-20 officers which is the great achievement of KPK STENO ASSOCIATION.
Now being the Federal Government employees it is our responsibility to go ahead and do something to our steno community.
Many thanks for taking so much interest in promoting harmony between APS/PS and giving your ever valuable views on this site. I am very much amused to see the valuable and historic work done by KPK Steno Association, it could really prove a milestone in the struggle of APS/PS all over Pakistan as it will definitely solve majority of our promotion problems if so implemented in Federal govt too through the kind linkages and efforts of our brother Khalid Bhai. We were previously stuck in BS-15 when we were Stenographer and now we are once again stuck in BS-16, if P.S entitlement is reduced to BS-20, a majority of our APS can pave way for further promotion to BS-17, 18, 19 & 20 also.
Once again thanks a lot for sharing this happy news with all of us.
33 % quota has been restored in Military Accountant General Office and more than 20 senior auditors promoted as Assistant Accounts Officers in BPS-17. This site is now going to be closed as no response or to share something with coleagues by the host. thanks
AOA,to all quleaques,aaj Mashriq Peshawar main published hoi,kay govt:of kpk,budget 2014-15 main tamam supdt ko BS-17,AUR ASSISTANT,16 AUR SR.C KOO 11 AUR JC KOO BS-9 DAGI.
AOA to colleagues of KPK a. raihan april 22,2014 congratulation to all colleagues who were in the range of upgradation. Kya KPK Govt. Stenographers ko be upgrade karnay ka arada rakhti hai. please comments Mr. A. Raihan.
AOA,to all colleques ,and Muhammad Shafiq Suhaib,Stenographers Association KPK,say baat hoi hay ,unki summary bhee unkareeb Chief Minister KPK,kay pass ponch jay gee,jis main Stenographer-BPS-14 KO 16 main upgrade kardeia jay gaa ,liqan BPS-16 joo three years poray karay gaa aus koo BPS-17 Milay gaa q.k.yay already decided in upgradation amended rules.
AOA to colleagues of KPK a. raihan after three years up-gradation to abi cabnet division nay ok kya hai. Finance Department ke tarf say notification zarory hai ya nahi . please comments Mr. A. Raihan.
AOA,to all colleaques ,joo notification issued howa hay finance division regulation wing ki terf say aus main clear wahzahat kr dei gai ,hay joo kay KPK,finance department nain endorsed karkay ham koo beja hay,ais kay bad koi imham nahi aur provincial govt:nain yay implement kardeia hay raha sawal depreived stenographers kaa woo bhee FST ka chairman jab aa jay gaa too woo bhee BPS-17,KAR day gaa BPS-16,kay depreived stenographers koo from 23.12.2011 say liqan new joo ab in service hain unka farmula notification main day deia gia hay.
Sir ap konsay notification ke bat kar rahay han plz upload notification on this forum in which mentioned of three year condition. regards Zulfiqar Awan
Sir, B-17 for Stenographers in Higher Education Commissions, Election Commission, Time Scale in Federal Education B-16 to B-17,20% for senior Auditors B-16 to B-17 Restored in MAG Office, FPSC Transport officer B-16 to B-17, in CDA 10 % quota Stenographers B-16 to B-17. Is there nothing any thing to do?
AOA,to Zulfiqar Awan suhaib,JAB,APS,kaa notification Provincial Govt:s departments kay liay kardain gee too Stenographers kaa words end hoo jay gaa,too APS,kayliay three years kay bad BPS-16TO BPS-17,khud implement hoo jay gaa tamam secretariate kay APS,kayliay yay hoochuka hay,ab departments kaylaiy bhee hoo jay gaa joo inservice hain woo zaroor ais say mustafeed hongay.
Good news samnay aae to koi bat ho.
ReplyDeleteWah, khalid bhai, Wah,
ReplyDeletewhat a suspense u created!!!!
anyway, v wait for good news anxiously...
Rehan Islam
APS Senate Sectt Islamabad
KHALID BHAI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteALLAH AP KE ZABAN MUBARK KARY..............
Z.A.AWAN
In hukamranoon sy koi umeed rakhna bekar hay. 20% special allowaance tu dey ni rahay aur kia dain gy janab Baqi sab ko time scale mil gia serf deprived stenos ko kuch ni dia ja raha Selectioin Grade wali increment hi kafi hay ab ni di ja rahi. Na notification, na pay fixation and no premature increment ab sawal banta hay k selectin grade walon ko kia mila upgradation say Ab suspense create kar dia gia hay good news ka wo bhi upgradation walon k leya hoga.Ziada khush hony ki bhi arorat ni hay bhy Rehan and Awan sahib
ReplyDeleteSabir Chauhan, Lahore
House Rent may be increase.........BPS-1 to 16
ReplyDeleteDear Khalid Bhai. AoA. Although, due to the behaviour of our Politicians and Leaders, we should not live in the Paradise of Fools but being a Muslim we have a firm belief in Allah Almighty and after that believe in your struggles. Hopefully, a good news will be announced from your side. All the civil servants should pray for the success of Khalid Bhai. May Allah Almighty give him success and another good news come soon Insha-Allah
ReplyDeleteBest of Luck my Brother
Sharif Gul
Khalid Bhai Please tell us the good news. Please please please.........
ReplyDeleteDear Chohan Sb. AOA APS holding Selection Scale BS-16 has been allowed two premature increments on upgradation of the post of APS from BS-15 to BS-16. Any APS holding BS-16 prior to upgradation, can draw two premature increments w.e.f. 23.12.2011 as allowed on promotion in the same scale.
ReplyDeletewe have not been up-gradated Govt. of Gilgit-Baltistan,
Deletein GB still no implemented up gradation due to un know reasons.plz also help us for the up-gradation.
ReplyDeleteDear Rahim Bakhsh,
ReplyDeleteI cannt understand that in ur above comment in which u r saying that two premature increments on upgradation.of the post of PAS from BS-15 to BS-16 and Selection Grade BS-16 have only one premature increment within same scale..
but u r saying that two premature increment....can u explain us
Respectful Regards,
Zulfiqar Awan
Dear Colleagues
ReplyDeleteAssalam-o-Alaikum
I leanred news about the increasing of rental ceiling of govt. employees...recommended by the Ministry of Housing Committee.
1.Employees.............BPS-1 to BPS-16 = 50%
2. Employees............BPS-17 and above =25%
If any one have true information...kindly share...it here.......
kind regards.........
Zulfiqar Awan
Dear Awan Sb. AOA Any APS holding BS-16 prior to 23.12.2.11 is entitled two premature increments on upgradation of the post from BS-15 to BS-16. The point is that when any official is promoted to higher grade, his pay is fixed in the higher scale increasing to some extent and then he avail one premature increment. Meaning by he enjoy benefit of more than one increment. Similarly in the same scale upgrdation or promotion the official is entitled two premature increments instead of one. My contact Nos. are 062/9255262 & 0301-7710950
ReplyDeleteKhalid Bhai AOA Is web site ka time drust karein please. Me ne comments 11.31 AM per 7 January ko upload keay hein jabkey is ka time 11.31 PM on 6 January aa raha he. Please time & date darust karein. Thanks
ReplyDeleteRahim Bakhash bhi, AOA. Yes emplopyees promoted in same scalete are eigible for two increments, but some departments are not even ready tjo allow one increment.I would like to request to Khalid Bhai to contact CGA and open and clear clarification be sough in this reagard and put on this site to enable all of us to get fixatrion of pay in same samce scale promotion. Till today many colleagues are facing to CAO office particularly.Their plea is that one increment was given at the tike of selection grade and now fixation and premature increment can not be give.I wrot to CGA, Islamabad , but, all in vain. No reply from the CGA office is received to me. Rahim bhai ,if you have payslip of any friend who is got fixation in same scale plese inform and send to me.
ReplyDeleteSabir Chauhan, Lahore 0300-4663778
Dear Chohan Sb. AOA. Their plea is totally wrong as the Selection Scale, Upgradation and Promotion are separate issues and the officials are entitled premature increment on every event. The Government of Pakistan has clarified the position and issued two Office Memorandums. I am employee of Federal Government and I have got refixed my pay in BS-16 and two increments have to allowed to me being upgradation in the same scale. Please intimate your FAX No. so that I may fax my Revised Pay Slip to you.
ReplyDeleteAslamo Alaikum Wa Rehmat Ullah!
ReplyDeleteWhat is the good news for employees of BS1 to 16?
Muhammad Shafique Mughal
Cell # 0300-4649502
AOA Friends
ReplyDeletebest of luck for the coming soon good news
Shafique Mughal Sahib AOA
ReplyDeleteplease inform to your collegues about the status of premature increment in Punjab
Dear Colleagues
ReplyDeleteAssalam-o-Alaikum
I leanred news about the increasing of rental ceiling of govt. employees...recommended by the Ministry of Housing Committee.
1.Employees.............BPS-1 to BPS-16 = 50%
2. Employees............BPS-17 and above =25%
If any one have true information...kindly share...it here.......
kind regards.........
Zulfiqar Awan
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AOA, Rahim Bakhsh bhai, please sen my copy of your revised pay slip o the following address;
ReplyDeleteSabir Chauhan, 159-A, Ali Street, Rehman Park, Near Wafaqi Colony, Lahore of
E-Mail sabir_chauhan6@yahoo.com Fax No.042-35300921 not working now a days.
AOA, Khalid bhai, good news ki koi news ni ai, aye to batana bhai shiddat sy intizar kr rahy hain sab waisy sahi suspension create kr di gi hay
ReplyDeleteSabir Chauhan,Lahore
khalid bhai pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez good news ka koi hint hi day do
ReplyDeletelagta hay jo bhi good news hay govt. budget 2014 main hi day gi isi liy to suspense hay
ReplyDeleteMy dear Rahim Bakhash, AOA.All the orders regarading upgaradation and thereafter benefits are available even then some departments are relluctant to issue the revised pay slips in case of same scale promotees. Whether you havae read my comments above, please see and send me you revised pay slip at the earliest possible or paste on this forum.
ReplyDeleteSabir Chauhan, Lahore
Dean Chauhan Sb. Revised Pay Slip ki copy aap ko bazariya Currier aaj bheij di he.
ReplyDeleteThanks dear Rahim bhai, I am just waiting for it, tody I visited AGPR, Lahore they told that two increments are allowed by FD and copy has also been obtained and sent to Head Office On receiving this I shall send it to HQ for issuance of revised pay slip
ReplyDeleteSabir Chauhan Lahore
Rahim Bhai,AOA your currier is not yet received. It should be reached today without any delay.Anyhow, I am waiting for it's receiving. Good news is still awaited the forum is in suspense and remours are increasing in different ways. Let it ?
ReplyDeleteSabir Chauhan
Dear Chauhan Sb. I sent pay slip on 13.01.2014 and 14th January was holiday. The same should have reached on 15th but not reached. Let us wait the same. The pay slip must reach today. If good news is regarding rent ceiling we may not wait for the same as the same will be beneficial for the employees posted in only 4/5 big cities.
ReplyDeleteDear Rahim Bakhash bhai, thanks I received pay slip today. Good News may be probably regarding 20%, because, Government has to reply to the court.
ReplyDeleteSabir Chauhan
Dear Colleagues
ReplyDeleteAssalam-o-Alaikum
Subject:-SERVICE STRUCTURE/PROMOTION RULES FOR STENO/APS/PS
I have taken up above issue on this forum regarding re-designation of all posts of stenos from time to time but no body show their interest/comments, Once again I am giving my proposal which is given below:-
S.NO.
CURRENT POST
REDESIGNATION POST
1.
Stenotypist (BPS-14)
Personal Assistant (BPS-14)
2.
Assistant Private Secretary (BPS-16)
Assistant Private Secretary (BPS-16)
3.
Private Secretary (BPS-17)
Deputy Private Secretary (BPS-17)
4.
Private Secretary (BPS-18)
Additional Private Secretary (BPS-18)
5.
Senior Private Secretary (BPS-19)
Private Secretary (BPS-19)
6.
Senior Private Secretary (BPS-20)
Senior Private Secretary (BSP-20)
FOR PROMOTIONS/TIME SCALES
It is further proposed that for promotions/ time scales for steno community criteria is as under:-
S.NO.
CURRENT POST
REDESIGNATION POST
PROMOTIONS/TIME SCALES
1.
Stenotypist (BPS-14)
Personal Assistant (BPS-14)
3 YEARS SERVICE IN BS-14
2.
Asstt. Private Secretary (BPS-16)
Assistant Private Secretary (BPS-16)
5 YEARS SERVICE IN BS-16
3.
Private Secretary (BPS-17)
Deputy Private Secretary (BPS-17)
7 YEARS SERVICE IN BS-17
4.
Private Secretary (BPS-18)
Additional Private Secretary (BPS-18)
9 YEARS SERVICE IN BS-18
5.
Senior Private Secretary (BPS-19)
Private Secretary (BPS-19)
11 YEARS SERVICE IN BS-19
6.
Senior Private Secretary (BPS-20)
Senior Private Secretary (BSP-20)
15 YEARS SERVICE IN BS-20
The promotions/time scales will automatically move next grade when ever their promotion will be due without the condition availability of posts because current position is that if seats will be available then the person will go to next grade promotion which is not acceptable at any cost because in this situation our colleagues are/will retire/ing in one grade because very few posts are available for promotion of BPS-17.
Now the question is raised here that who will do all of these activities. The Answer is that We have one Hero who is Mr. Khalid Riaz and he can achieve this target.
Any mistake in my proposal is highly regretted please. Hope my colleagues will give their positive comments/suggestions.
Nice proposal but its need some corrections
DeleteDear Khalid Bhai,
DeleteThanks for reply on above proposal and i request you to kindly make the amentment/correction on the above proposal as you want.
Respectful Regards,
Zulfiqar Awan
Attn: Mr. Ejaz Ahmad.
ReplyDeleteSecretary Finance, Government of the Punjab is not ready to grant premature increment on upgradation, number of times summary put up to Secretary but he did not forwarding the same to Chief Minister Punjab. Please pray.
Muhammad Shafique Mughal
Dear Shafique Sb.
DeletePlease convey the updates regarding the upgradation in punjab.
Best regards.
Yasir
Dear Shafique Mughal Sb.
ReplyDeleteThank you for giving latest information regarding implementation of pre-mature increment on this forum and I also appreciate your struggle as well as your entire team regarding the grant of pre-mature increment in the province of Punjab. I hope that a day ll come when the Secretary Finance forwards our request to the Hon'le Chief Minster Punjab as Finance Department, Government of Pakistan has already implemented the same. INSHALLAH
Yasir
I agree with Mr. Awan. There should be separate line of promotion for Stenos/APS.
ReplyDeleteArshad
kpk finance department ki terf say premature increment kay jari honay kaa februray 14 main imkaan hay.
ReplyDeleteSTAR RICE please tell us about good news.. :P
ReplyDeleteSTAR RICE please give us atleast a hint of good news.
ReplyDeleteGood news is, in fact, related to four step promotion formula.
ReplyDeleteRight but in process
DeleteMy question if for samerali khan that what is your source for four step promotion formula news
ReplyDeleteThere is only one Source "His Excellency Mr. Khalid Riaz". In his earlier post, he had mentioned about that.
DeleteThanks for response samerali khan
ReplyDeleteYou are Welcome....
DeleteDEAR KHALID BHAI,
ReplyDeleteAS EARLIER YOU SHARE THE INFORMATION IN JULY, 2013. THE DETAILS IS AS UNDER:
1. 4 TIER FORMULA FOR PROMOTION OF ALL CIVIL SERVANTS OF
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
2. 4 TIER FORMULA FOR ALL CIVIL SERVANTS. CASE IN PROCESS
3. FURTHER WHAT IS THE STATUS OF UR 10% QUOTA CASE WHICH
WAS PENDING IN ISLAMABAD HIGH COURT SINCE LONG??????
YOU ARE REQUESTED TO KINDLY UPDATE US ON THIS FORUM...
RESPECTFUL REGARDS,
ZULFIQAR AWAN
APS
TDAP-KARACHI
10% quota case still in Islamabad High Court.......Hearing expected in the 2nd week of February. 4 tier per exercise ho rahi ha establishment division ma aur wo BPS-1 to BPS-16 tak k liye ha... Jald hi wo finalize ho jai ga. Junhi koi result nikle ga ..... App sub doston ko Agah kar diya jai ga.... Rahi Baat ma 3 saal k intezar kiyon kar raha hoon tu agar aik kam asani se ho sakta ha tu court ki taraf kiyon rijo kiya jai.... Haan agar masla hal na ho tu phir hamarey pas options hain.
DeleteDEAR KHALID BHAI
DeleteTHANKS FOR GIVEN UPDATE INFORMATION
KIND REGARDS,
ZULFIQAR AWAN
U R Welcome.
ReplyDeleteDear Colleagues, AOA.. I gone through all of your comments and noted that except one colleague all are interested only in good news.Whereas our demand for time scale from 23.12.2011 as vide para of F.D dated 23..12.2011, wherein one time next scale to P.S.already in B-17 is granted B-18. The Selection Grade Stenographers and Stenotypists be allowed one time next scale immediately. Time scale formula may be allowed after completion of up gradated persons after 3 years. If it is not give from back to deprived stenos resultantly, deprived stenos will retied from services in the same scales as mostly happening. We should devoted our struggles on this one point in the first instance.The department having no post of PS etc. how they will get the promotion in the next scale
ReplyDeleteSabir Chauhan.
My Question is to Khalid Bhai and other who actually know that
ReplyDelete"What is the current status of 20% Special Allowance Case for federal government employees"
Its still lying on Minister Finance table for onward to the Prime Minister
DeleteKhalid Bhai! thanks for response and updating. May Allah shower his countless blessings on you and your family (Ameen).
DeleteAttn: Mr. Yasir Sahib.
ReplyDeleteInshallah, premature increment will be allowed in Punjab.
Muhammad Shafique Mughal
.Dear Brothers,
ReplyDeleteAssalam-o-Aleikum
Kindly share the names and contact numbers of those deprived APS who have filed case in Islamabad High Court for BPS 17 and other benefits. There is an APS who wants to join them in the Court.
Regards,
Iqbal Mangrio
APS MCC Hyderabad
0301-2241306
AoA, Dear colleagues,
ReplyDeleteMay anybody like to apprise the latest status of 20% special allowance to all Fed govt employees as directed by IHC.
AoA, Dear colleagues,The peoples in Ministries are well ware of every thing, but I am sorry to say that they are not interested, because they are getting maximum benefits and there are posts of PS in every ministry and at their terms they will be promoted Hence, they are not taking interest in matters of deprived employees. Still the benefit of same scale promotion and upgradations are not being extended to all entitled persons in many departments.
ReplyDeleteSabir Chauhan
Dear brothers,
DeleteMany thanks to all of you and particularly to my brother Mr. Chuhan who always fought our fight as front runner and always extended his valued advice to our brother and leader, Mr. Khalid Riaz. By going through your ever valued comments, I have concluded that your got a great grasp over government service matters particularly regarding APS/PS cadre, I therefore, sought your kind help and guidance on the following issues;
i). Why Mr. Khalid is waiting for 03 years period to go for BS-17 for APS as our brothers in accounts deptt have got their posts up-graded twice during I think one year first from BS-11 to 14 and then 16, then how can we not got for next scale, which was our basic demand when we register the case in FST but we were given only 16, whereas PS got the maximum benefits and now they are even enjoying promotion till BS-19 in the shape of time scale, but we could not get any time scale for APS as yet, comment, please
ii). Mr. Khalid have once given us good news that special PA of APS/PS is going to be increased, what happened to that case?
iii). The main problem we all brothers are facing in our govt departments that we do not have any/enough seats for P.S as only a BS-21 office can be given P.S, in my opinion, a simple solution to this problem is that PS entitlement may be extended to BS-20 officers, this way our maximum brothers can be promoted as P.S and their onward it is smooth sailing, because there is a time scale for P.S to get promotion up to BS-19, your valued comments, please
iv). Why not a time scale like teachers and P.S can not be ensured for our deprived cadre i.e. APS
v). Sorry to say when we were Stenographer we were stuck in BS-15 as there was no further promotion for us and now when we are APS and in BS-16, now once again we are once again more stuck-up in this scale, any way out sir?
vi). Last but not the least that we as APS can not get any financial benefit except that of special pay of Rs. 320/- month that too for those who are attached with BS-20 officers, late sitting allowance was for the first time a benefit was given to our deprived category but after being promoted as APS (BPS-16),d this unitary benefit has also been withdrawn. A simple formula to extend this facility to APS is that word non-gazetted may be removed as there is no BS-16 non gazetted grade in Pakistan, if someone is in BS-16, he is gazetted, my brother can give his expert advice on the issue. You can also interact with me on my following e-mail address;
friendswah1971@gmail.com
Stay blessed, ameen and thanks a lot in advance for your valued time.
My regards.
Safdar
APS, Wah Cantt
Dear brothers,
DeleteMany thanks to all of you and particularly to my brother Mr. Chuhan who always fought our fight as front runner and always extended his valued advice to our brother and leader, Mr. Khalid Riaz. By going through your ever valued comments, I have concluded that your got a great grasp over government service matters particularly regarding APS/PS cadre, I therefore, sought your kind help and guidance on the following issues;
i). Why Mr. Khalid is waiting for 03 years period to go for BS-17 for APS as our brothers in accounts deptt have got their posts up-graded twice during I think one year first from BS-11 to 14 and then 16, then how can we not got for next scale, which was our basic demand when we register the case in FST but we were given only 16, whereas PS got the maximum benefits and now they are even enjoying promotion till BS-19 in the shape of time scale, but we could not get any time scale for APS as yet, comment, please
ii). Mr. Khalid have once given us good news that special PA of APS/PS is going to be increased, what happened to that case?
iii). The main problem we all brothers are facing in our govt departments that we do not have any/enough seats for P.S as only a BS-21 office can be given P.S, in my opinion, a simple solution to this problem is that PS entitlement may be extended to BS-20 officers, this way our maximum brothers can be promoted as P.S and their onward it is smooth sailing, because there is a time scale for P.S to get promotion up to BS-19, your valued comments, please
iv). Why not a time scale like teachers and P.S can not be ensured for our deprived cadre i.e. APS
v). Sorry to say when we were Stenographer we were stuck in BS-15 as there was no further promotion for us and now when we are APS and in BS-16, now once again we are once again more stuck-up in this scale, any way out sir?
vi). Last but not the least that we as APS can not get any financial benefit except that of special pay of Rs. 320/- month that too for those who are attached with BS-20 officers, late sitting allowance was for the first time a benefit was given to our deprived category but after being promoted as APS (BPS-16),d this unitary benefit has also been withdrawn. A simple formula to extend this facility to APS is that word non-gazetted may be removed as there is no BS-16 non gazetted grade in Pakistan, if someone is in BS-16, he is gazetted, my brother can give his expert advice on the issue. You can also interact with me on my following e-mail address;
friendswah1971@gmail.com
Stay blessed, ameen and thanks a lot in advance for your valued time.
My regards.
Safdar
APS, Wah Cantt
Please refer to my demands addressed to Establishment Division/Finance Division
DeleteMany thanks for your prompt reply, however, kindly do up-load those demands again for information of all.
DeleteThanks a lot.
Safdar
AOA to all collegues
ReplyDeleteWS
DeleteALLAH RABULLALAMEEN TAMAM POLITICIANS KOO SEEDI RAHA PER LAY TOO SAB KAM ASAN HOONGAY.
ReplyDeleteAOA,to all of my colleques,Ab taak jitni jedoo jehad Khalid Riaz bahi,nain ais community kay liay ki hay aus kaa badala koi ada nahi karsakta,baghair kis lalich aur tama kay aus ki ais jadoo jehad kay nateja main tamam officials kaa cadar officer main tabdeel hoogia,aur aus ki jadoo jehad abhi khatam nahi hoi,aur woo last target hasal karnain ki kooshis main laga howa hay,liqan yay berucracy,abhi taak fst kay liay chairman kay taqarar kaa faisala nana karsaki aur fst non functional honain ki waja say depreived stenographers kay case kaa faisla nan hoo saka ,aur umeed hay jab fst functional hoo jay gee too faisala ais community kay haq main he hooga,woo din door nahi jab yay target bhee yay tamam community kaa hero hasil karlay gaa.
ReplyDeleteAOA, dear FST waly case ka hero apna colleague jo National Savings sy hay hoga. agar FST non-functional hay to dosri courts mojood hain move kia ja sakta hay koi panandi ni. ab serf deprived hi interested hain baqi waqat pas kr rahy hain payaray.
ReplyDeleteSabir Chauhan
Assalam o Alaikum Chauhan sb..... sahi farmaya actual hero deprived se hi hoga..... ma ne ye koshish hero ban ney k liye nahi ki...... aur Hero filmo ma hota ha aur ye film nahi ha balke haqiqat ha..... ma app ma se hoon ab har case ma court ma fight nahi kar sakta wo tabi ho sakta ha jab app k pass cause of action ho......ab bhi hum aik case ma exercise kar rahe hain dua karin Allah hamain kamyab kare.......ma dobara kehna chahoon ga k na ma hero hoon aur na mujhe hero pukara jai..... Thanks.
DeleteNational Savings waley dost se request he k wo is masley per ghaor karein.
ReplyDeleteAOA,Sabir Chauhan suhaib ,Khalid Riaz Bahai say main mil chuka hoon,woo depreived kay liay bhe muklis hay,liqan jab case fst main hay,too ab sirf wohi faisla karain gay ,doosri courts too bad main hongi,phelay fst kaa faisala hoga tab doosri bari hogi,fst functional hoogi too fasala umeed hay hamara haq main he hooga,qunakay ab pori stenographers community hamaray sath hay.
ReplyDeleteAOA,MR.KHALID RIAZ BAHAI,aur MR.Sabir Chauhan Suhaib ,yay batain,kay main 2002,main BPS-15,koo permanant post per purmote howa,aur pher 2007,koo BPS-16,2001,say moveover howa,aur back BPS-15,main aa gia,aur 23.12.11,taak BPS-15,main he same grade main he raha ,jab taak post upgrade nahi hoi thee,kia main special increment kaa haqdar hoon jis ka order ab howa hay aur aus main 7.9.2007,say allow kia gia hay,ais kaa jawab ais foam per dekar maskoor farmain.
ReplyDeleteDear Raihan bhai,jab move over khatam hua to sab wapas apny scale mn a gy aur wo chapter close ho gia, is leya wo period aur increment countable ni rahi. Ab upgradation date sy hi fixation + premature mily gi. Main move over B=17 sy wapas B-16 mn aya tha hamari fixtion abhi tak ni ow rahi k selection grade k waqat fixation hoi thi dobara ni ho sakti. 19.1.2014 ko premature increment ka order hua magar same scale fixation ni mil rahi.
ReplyDeleteSabir Chauhan
thanks,Dear Sabir Chuhan bhai,kay app nain tafseel say wizia position batadee,abhi,kpk,walay,february main premature increments kay allowed honay kaa notificaion jari kardain gay pher dekain gaay agar zindigi nain wafa ki too.booth booth sukria.
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ReplyDeletePlease any one confirm the news:
ReplyDeleteMy friend, Mr. Javaid Iqbal who is working as UDC in Regional Tax Office, Faisalabad (is also Dy: Secty: Genl of their department union) has inormed that in case of payment of 20% special allowance to all federal govt employees, the Islamabad High Court has again directed the Ministry of Finance to issue notification till 28th Februrary, 2014 and repot compliance.
As tole my a reasonable Friend from Audit Department that on 3rd February,2014 the decision was kept pending by the honourable judge of Islamabad High Court, hence 95% can be confirmed.
ReplyDeleteSabir Chauhan, Lahore
Dear Shehzad Khan, Thanks I read your E-mail, please give me few days for collection of proof to give you reasonable reply with some references from some other departments for your guidance
ReplyDeleteSabir Chauhan, Lahore
Thanks a lot Sabir bhai for your ever expeditious reply. We all have one aim in common that we all want to do something great for this deprived class called Stenographer/APS who work most in every deptt but gets less in reward. It should be out combine motto and thanks God it is to not let any body dictate us any more and try to grab better promotion channels and incentives for this devoted class which is not difficult for them as they work with the highest ranked officers like Joint Secy, Secy, Ministers etc then why they are lagging behind in all frontiers. Join hands to achieve this combine goal of us. I am waiting for your expert advice.
DeleteRegards
Safdar
Dear Colleagues,
DeleteIslamabad High Court fixed the date of hearing 28-2-2014 for implementation of 20% speical allowance for all federal govt employees.Notification must be issued till 28-2-2014 and the same provided to the Court on 28-2-2014.
Is it correct news or not???????? Any one have correct news..........
Regards,
Zulfiqar Awan
AOA,Tamam colleques,koo,ais fourms say tamam good news apas main aik dosaray kay sath share karnain kaa aik apna he maza hay,aur her waqat ham koo Rabullallahmeen kaa shukria ada karnan chai,kay ham koo Aik Hero Haji Khalid Riaz bhai ki shakal main mil gia aur kisi lalach aur tema kay baghair aus nain aur aus ki poori team nain apni jehadoo jehad jari rakhi aur ham sab koo officials say officer kay cadar main badal deia,aur agay tamam joo inservice hain unkoo terqi kay moowaqay in future mohia kar deiay,aur inshallah depreived stenographers kaa case bhee decide hoo jay gaa jab fst kay chairman kaa taqrar howa too ham Rtd,koo bhee BPS-17 mil jay gaa 23.12.11,say.liqan ham provincial mulazameen nain unkay liay kuch nahi kia tamam provincial mulazameen say request ki jati hay kay woo apnain hero say rapata rakain aur aus ki financial madad zaroor karain.
ReplyDeleteDear Shafique Sb.
ReplyDeletePlease convey the updates regarding the upgradation in punjab.
Best regards.
Yasir
Dear Shafique Mughal Sb,
DeletePlease update the latest position of pre-mature increment in punjab.
Dear Shafique Mughal Sahib
ReplyDeletepleeeeeeeeeeez inform your colleagues about the latest position of pre-mature increment in Punjab
The Ombudsman Punjab, decided the complaint filed by Mr. Shoukat Ali Wattoo,o/o DGPR,Lahore on 30-01-2014 and forwarded to the Finance Deptt. and S&GAD Deptt for implement the decision within one month. Pray for God for better luck.
ReplyDeleteThe Ombudsman Punjab, decided the complaint filed by Mr. Shoukat Ali Wattoo,o/o DGPR,Lahore on 30-01-2014 and forwarded to the Finance Deptt. and S&GAD Deptt for implement the decision within one month of Selection Grade Stenographer BS-15 to BS-16 . Pray for God for better luck.
DeleteAOA,tamam colleques koo qabool hoo,aaj,daily mashriq main aik khabar ai hay kay provincial govt:KPK,nain 30% special allowance secretariat and chief minister secretariat walloon koo dainay kaa faisala karlia hay,liqan ab taak hamari premature increment lataki hoo hay,ais kaa faisala bhee agar as soon as possible hoo kar dain too boot acha hoga.
ReplyDeleteDear Shafique Mughal Sb,
ReplyDeleteupdate about pre-mature increment in Punjab.
School Education Department Punjab mein Teaching Staff k liye upward mobility package hai PST BS-9 ko BS-12 & 14, EST BS-14 ko BS-15 & 16 and SST BS-16 ko BS-17 & 18 dia jata hai aur in-service promotion bhi di jati hai 50%. Clerical Staff k liye yeh package kiun ni? is pr kiun koi protest ni karta k clerical k liye be in-service promotion k sath sath mobility package dia jaye.
ReplyDeleteSchool Education Department mein Assistant Director BS-17 ki posts clerical ki hai ab Superintendent aur Stenographer BS-16 same scale mein hain.2nu cadres ko 100% promotion milni chahye as Assistant Director. lekin 70% posts Teaching side ko di hui hain Govt. ne jis se Clerical staff ki further promotion ni hoti.
ReplyDeleteAPCA 10% 15% salary increase k liye to protest karte hain. yeh to routine se increase hoti rehni hai. asl to yeh issues hain.
ReplyDeleteThe Islamabad High Court has again issued the orders on 4th February 2014 in connection with the 20% Special Relief Allowance 2013 to all the Federal Govt Employees and the deadline has been given till 28-02-2014. Some points of this decision are as under:
ReplyDeleteOfficial in attendant submit that the summary with regard to Special Allowance @ 20% was submitted to the Honourable Prime Minister for approval and there were certain quarries, however after answering the same summary has been again submitted to the Honourable PM for taking final decision about the matter. Further submit that they are not in position to tell any specific date for the approval of the summary, however showed their expectance that the same will be returned within three weeks. Officials in attendant are directed to submit follow up letter in terms of order passed by this court so that this issue may be settled as the employees of different departments are lurking in the arena of uncertainty since long and approaching the court time and again. It is expected that the authority shall take the final decision by the end of this month i.e 28-02-2014.
Please paste the following address in your address bar to see the detail:-
Deletehttp://www.glxspace.com/2014/02/20/decision-copy-february-2014-20-special-relief-allowance-fg-employees/
Attention Shafique Sb.
ReplyDeletePlease convey the updates regarding the pre-mature increment case and upgradation of clerical staff as ordered by the Honourable Ombudsman Punjab, Lahore.
Best regards.
Yasir
ASOA.Waiting for good news.
ReplyDeleteMuhammad Shafiq,
Abbottabad.
AOA,to all of my colloquis ,main ajj,SR-11,AUR SR-1,finance department kpk,kay pass gia premature increment kay mutalaq maloomat lainay kay liay,unka jawab thaa,kay financial application ki information abi taak muqamal nahi hoi,jab muqamal hoo jay too ,pher kuch further proceeding hoo gi umeed hay 1 or 2 months kay darmian may notification hoo jay.
ReplyDeletesir which proforma is used to write ACR of APS or it is previous or otherwise
ReplyDeleteSecond. After upgradation there should be some fellows to stand and other to follow them to watch their line of promotion (time scale) for APS. If Mr. Khalid has no time.
ReplyDeleteDear Abid, white colour one page ACR form is already ment for B-16, if the ACR is prior to 2012 then non-gazetted white form will used. Secondly a colleague from National Savings Department has filed petition in FST, but due to non availability of Chairman case is pending, hence wait for decision. So far as Mr. Kahlid is concerned his is trying for the best but it will take time, if he struggles for deprived then it will be easy for newly promoted in B-16. Khalid bhai is a rich man he can afford the expenses occurred on petitions etc. Has any body can spend money on it, if so then every thing is possible as Inspector of Income Tax has upgraded twicely in a year.
ReplyDeleteSir Rightly Thanks
ReplyDeleteMay you please provide a copy this ACR in this blog so that it may be seen here
Dear Abid, AOA. I checked my documents and learnt that after B-16 treated as Gazetted, the PER form is modified and consisted of 5 pages which can easily be downloaded from Establishment Division website only writing PER for BPS-16 If not possible then float your address by Dak.
ReplyDeleteSabir Chauhan, Lahore
AOA,to all of my colleques,koi achi news update karain,booth booth sukria.
ReplyDeleteRaihan Bhai kaisy hain ap. Achi news ka season aur log gy. Serf Allah ko yad krain jo in k dil main dosoroon ka ehsas paida kry. warna in k apny pet hi nain bhar rahay. 20% special pay aur deprived case lay k bethay hain.
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AOA, jinab khalid sb, any news....?
ReplyDeleteAOA,to all of my colleques,aur Sabir Chauhan bahai kaa bhee booth booth shukar guzar hoon kay woo ais fourm per kuch khatay aur kuch metay comments sent kartay rehatay hain ,her colleques in khatay aur metay chatkaroon kaa maza leta rehta hay,liqan in chatkaroon kaa jawab hamari govt: ki terf say koi musbat nahi,ab dehkoo,30% special allowance too kpk main governer ,aur secretarate mulazameen koo denain kaa order too fori kardia hay,aur hamara case financial application ki waja say latak rahah hay,aur chairman fst kaa masala federal govt: nain latkaia howa hay,aur jan boj kar depreived stenographers kaa case hal karnain main letoo lal say kam lay raihay hain,kab aqal aayay gee inko,Allah reham kar inki halatay zar per .
ReplyDeleteDear Chauhan Sb,
ReplyDeleteAssalam-o-Alaikum
Sir, as you told this forum that BS-16 PER can download from Establishment Division but there is no PER of BS-16 officers. Where from you get PER form of BS-16 officers. You are requested to kindly tell us where from we can get or download this PER FORM FOR BS-16 OFFICERS
Kind Regards,
Zulfiqar Awan
APS
TDAP-Karachi
Attention Shafique Sb.
ReplyDeletePlease convey the updates regarding the pre-mature increment case and upgradation of clerical staff as ordered by the Honourable Ombudsman Punjab, Lahore.
Best regards.
Yasir
AOA all collegues,
ReplyDeletePML-N ki hakomat mein to kuch acha hona na mumkin hai jb to hr cadre roads py a k strike na kry tb tk pre-mature ya aur kuch ni mile ga.
Dear Abid and Awan Bhai, AOA. How are you. For getting a copoy of PER for BPS-16 Open the website of Establishment Division later write on the top PER from for BPS-16 then inter in few moment you will see form consisting of 5 pages and can copied as per your requirement. If is loaded on the forum it will covered a huge area.
ReplyDeleteSabir Chauhan Lahore
SALAM BHAI PER FOR BPS 16 IS NOT AVAILABLE ON THE SITE OF ESTABLISHMENT DIVION
ReplyDeleteChuahan Bhai now I am on the site of establishment division but there is no PER form for BPS 16 where we can get it please can you sent to my email id rsa4985@gmail.com. Thanks if you e mail to me
ReplyDeleteDear colleagues, Please write Establishment Division, website will be opend and see at serial number 5 "PDF Confidential Report Form for Stenographer/Stenotypist and click. Now they have clear for Stenos other than BPS-16
ReplyDeleteSabir Chauhan
Dear Colleagues,
ReplyDeleteDid any Assistant Private Secretary got 15% Medical Allowance from AGPR or not? Our deptt. is avoiding to implement the order of Finance Division.
Kindly share this info here.
Further what is the status of 20% special allowance because the court deadline was 28-2-2014
Kind Regard
Zulfiqar Awan.
AOA,tamam colleques koo,aus kay bad urz ki jati hay,kay app zaroor ais say itifaq karain gay,kay,Masjid zarar*jisko ham Lal Masjid Khetay, hain tamam fasad ki jar hay aur ais main two brothers dog Abdul Raseed aur Dog Abdul Aziz hain,aik too murdar hoo juka hay,aur doosara apni harqatoon say baz nahi atta,Islamabad court main Dehshat gardi kaa wiqia bhee inhino nain he kawia hay,qunkay Islamabad main aur dehshat gardoon koo pana denain ki koi jaga nahi hay,lihaza tamam muslaman in per lanth bejain aur in say howshir rahain.
ReplyDeleteFinance Division filed ICA in the Supreme Court. They are going to Allow 20% to the Petitioners only. Summary is still with Minister Finance. And 4 tier (Time Scale) is in process in Establishment Division.
ReplyDeletePML (N) govt always have a history to not pay anything to govt servant, very sorry to say but it is hard truth. The govt can not give 20% only to the petitioners as Islamabad High Court have already ordered to extend this 20% allowance to all the federal ministries/division/attached deptts as it was a clear cut anomaly to all the affected deptts. In contradiction to Federal govt's stance that this 20% allowance will only be given to those who are working in Islamabad Ministries, the people who are serving in other deptts in CMA and Finance are also enjoying this benefit, which is anomaly to all other deptts.
DeleteDear Awan Sb. AOA Hum Inland Revenue (FBR) Bahawalpur me Medical Allaowan @15% of the pay as on 30.06.2011, draw kara rahey hein.
ReplyDeleteDear Khalid Bhai AOA Please elaborate the 4 tier (Time Scale) Thanks
ReplyDeleteDear Sir,
ReplyDeleteWould u like to let me know....how to culcualte the 15% medical allowance.
some one told me culcuation is as under
i. (BPS-15) Basic Pay Rs.7740/- on 30.06.2011
ii. (BPS-16) Basic Pay Rs.Rs.8880/- on 30.06.2011
he told me that i will culculate on Rs.8880 x15%: Rs.1332/-
Sir would u like to tell me is it correct or not???
Kind Regards,
Zulfiqar Awan
In the light of Para 1(a) Finance Division (Regulations Wing)’s Office Memorandum No. 1(5)Imp/2011(Pt)-902 dated 21.10.2013, you are entitled for Medical Allowance @ Rs.1,262/- per month with effect from 23.12.2011 according to the following calculation:-
DeleteOn 30.06.2011 your Basic Pay in BS-15 of BPS-2008 was Rs.7,740/- per month.
On 30.06.20111 your Basic Pay in the relevant BS-16 of BPS-2008 would be Rs.7,940/ per month.
On 30.06.2011 your Basic Pay in the relevant BS-16 of BPS-2008 [after allowing one premature increment of Rs.470/- on up-gradation from BS-15 to BS-16, vide Finance Division (Regulations Wing)’s Office Memoranda No. 11(4)R-2/2011-1153/2013 dated 31.05.2013, would be Rs.8,410/- per month.
15% Medical Allowance of Rs.8,410/- comes to Rs.1,262/-
Dear Marghoob Bhai,
DeleteI am really grateful to you for this act of kindness.
Kind Regard
Zulfiqar Awan
Dear Sir,
ReplyDeleteWould u like to send me scan copy of ur PAY SLIP becasye our deptt is demanding prove of AGPR PAY SLIP. So if possible can u do it favour for me......
Kindly Regard,
Zulfiqar Awan
You may fix your pay as on 30.06.2011 in BS-16 and then 15% of the pay would be your Medical Allowance
ReplyDeleteSuppose that your Basic Pay in BS-15 of BSS-2008 on 30.06.2011 (prior to inception of BPS-2011 i.e. before 01.07.2011) was Rs,7,740/- per month then in the light of Para 1(a) Finance Division (Regulations Wing)’s Office Memorandum No. 1(5)Imp/2011(Pt)-902 dated 21.10.2013, you are entitled for Medical Allowance @ Rs.1,262/- per month with effect from 23.12.2011 according to the following calculation:-
DeleteOn 30.06.2011 your Basic Pay in BS-15 of BPS-2008 was Rs.7,740/- per month.
On 30.06.20111 your Basic Pay in the relevant BS-16 of BPS-2008 would be Rs.7,940/ per month.
On 30.06.2011 your Basic Pay in the relevant BS-16 of BPS-2008 [after allowing one premature increment of Rs.470/- on up-gradation from BS-15 to BS-16, vide Finance Division (Regulations Wing)’s Office Memoranda No. 11(4)R-2/2011-1153/2013 dated 31.05.2013, would be Rs.8,410/- per month.
15% Medical Allowance of Rs.8,410/- comes to Rs.1,262/-
Dear Colleagues,
ReplyDeleteI have learned the news that Govt of Pakistan, Finance Division is going to issue notification of 20% special allowance for only those deptt whose went to court for justice in Islamabad High Court but they will not give this allowance to those federal govt employees whose did not go to Court.
Further Finance Division is also going to INTRA COURT APPEAL in the Supreme Court of Pakistan against the decision of Islamabad High Court in which court issued orders for the implementation of 20% speicall allowance to all federal govt employees.
This is totally injustice if Finance Division will give the allowance to only petitioners..................
If any one have info plz share it on this forum.
Regards,
Zulfiqar Awan
Respected Riaz Bhai Asalam-o-Alikam. Sir two months has been elapsed but no any good news came on surface. please.
DeleteWait for few days more
DeleteDear Zulfiqar sahib app ne sahi information share ki ha. Its true
DeleteAOA,all of my colleques,Tamam problems hal hoo jainy gay,agar hamri establishment ham poor mulazameen kay favour main hoo,abhi taak too fst main chairman kaa taqrar bhee nahi karsaki hamri establishment,nan unko ham say koi lagaoo hay,yay ab taak joo bhee howa woo sirf Honourable courts nain he kia hay ,establishment walay too bus sirf 8 say 4 oclock taak time pass kar rahy hain.
ReplyDeleteMy doubt has successfully completed. If we try for time scale for deprived stenos there should be no time limit for 3 years. Deprived can get time scale immediately and newly upgraded automatically granted time scale after completion of 3 years service without any delay. No after 3 years case will be moved and than granted time scale which may take time less or more. Now what will you say my deprived colleagues on star-rice comments above please?
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Dear Chuhan Sb. AOA You have very rightly said. Time Scale should be granted automatically. No DPC or approval of the higher authorities should be involved. What is the latest position of this case ? In FST time is being wasted. Any other option may be opted.
ReplyDeleteAOA,all of colleques,bad uraz yay hay,kay ham depreived koo too 1.12.01,say BPS-16,dekar,dictator,nain tamam beedeenoo koo aur including Talaban kay jaday amjad,Samiul haq koo bhee dollars kay badalay main gareed kar aik galat amendment karakar unconstitutional assembly say pass karakar tamam mulazameen koo dobara previous scale main fix kardeia,yay nainsafi nahi too aur kia hay,pher ham dobara,Hero of stenographers ki jedojehad kay nataja main BPS-16 main
ReplyDelete23.12.11, KOO,upgrade howay,yani aik scale main two dafa,yay bhee khuli dehsat gardi thee,aur ab agar new stenographers ,aur depreived stenographers,BPS-16 MAIN upgrade howay ,too new kayliay too teek hay 3 years completion per WOO BPS=17,kay haqdar automatically hoo jain gay,liqan nainsafi too deprieved kay sath howi,ais kaa azala koon karay gaa.
I time and again requested and drawn kind attention of my dedicated APS to guide me why we are waiting for this 03 years tenure. The teachers did not waited for any three years and they have been granted time scale, very rightly too. P.S were granted time scale without waiting for any three years period, very rightly too, but why we are stuck to this so called three years condition, can not understand this excuse? If FST is not functional, or it may not be functional till Qayamat, can we wait that long, why do not we explore/try new venues for our just struggle like Islamabad High Court or any other High court. CMA people have been up-graded twice within a year or two and they were not asked to wait for 03 years then we are being waiting to complete this 03 years. CMA people have been up-graded way back from 2007, they why not we try to get our up-gradation way back to 2000 or even earlier, we should take good things from any other cadre with open heart so we can do better for our class, betterment of APS cadre is our unitary cause for which we all are united. Any word/advice on my questions from my learned brothers.
ReplyDeleteThanks a lot
Safdar
I time and again requested and drawn kind attention of my dedicated APS to guide me why we are waiting for this 03 years tenure. The teachers did not waited for any three years and they have been granted time scale, very rightly too. P.S were granted time scale without waiting for any three years period, very rightly too, but why we are stuck to this so called three years condition, can not understand this excuse? If FST is not functional, or it may not be functional till Qayamat, can we wait that long, why do not we explore/try new venues for our just struggle like Islamabad High Court or any other High court. CMA people have been up-graded twice within a year or two and they were not asked to wait for 03 years then we are being waiting to complete this 03 years. CMA people have been up-graded way back from 2007, they why not we try to get our up-gradation way back to 2000 or even earlier, we should take good things from any other cadre with open heart so we can do better for our class, betterment of APS cadre is our unitary cause for which we all are united. Any word/advice on my questions from my learned brothers.
ReplyDeleteThanks a lot
Safdar
AOA to all colleagues
ReplyDeletehow much benefit get in time scale after three years to those stonographers / stenotypists who were recently upgraded on 23-12-2011 from BS-12 to BS-14 ???????. whether stenographers / stenotypists (newly upgraded) avail the next scale after three years???????
AOA,all of my colleques un koo too joo recently upgraded hain govt:kay notification main time scale day deia gia hay means kay 3 years complete karnain kay bad,ab masla sirf deprieved stenograpehrs kaa hay 23.12.2011,say inshallah jab Chairman FST kaa taqrar hoga too Hamaray sab kay Hero ki jehdoo hehad zaroor rang layay gee aur ham koo bhee hamara haq mil jay gaa tamam poblems hal hoo jain gay liqan zara sabar ki zaroot hay,quankay hamri establishment susat ravi say kam karti hay aur jab taak koi pressure nana hoo yay aus waqat taak sirf time pass kartay hain.Premature increment kaa case financial application ki waja say KPK main pending hay aur boot susti say kam lia jaa rahah hay 15 months hogay hain notificaton kay intazar main betain hain Allah inko aqal day.
ReplyDeleteDear Khalid Bhaee and my counterparts/colleagues
ReplyDeleteWould u please let me know about Revision of Rental Ceiling, as on 30.06.2014 three years period on last rental ceiling revision would be complete. If someone have information about it, kindly share. Thank u
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ReplyDeletet is very clear from the comments of Khalid Bhai about time scale that there is no such case for deprived. If time scale is give after 3 years few deprived stenos will be in service. The stenos already in B-16 from 1996 or later and stenos upgraded on 23.12.2011 will be equally placed in time scale which is a serious injustice with deprived. In this regard my comments dated 11.3.2014 be read. I no some colleagues does not like my comments even than I tried to inform the upcoming clear situation .
ReplyDeleteSabir Chauhan Lahore
AOA,to all of my colleaques and Sabir Chauhan Bahai,your comments like to all but ,iswaqat joo bhee fst fasila kargi woo 23.12.2011,say he karagi,qunkay,Honourable supreme court of Pakistan nain apna complete decision day deia hay,aus ki tasreh ab yay fst samaj kar karay gi,aur deprieved stenos 23.12.2011,say he mustafeed hongay aus say pehelay kay nahi,ab joo bhee hoga woo 23.12.11,say he hoga,aus kay under joo ayany gay woo ais say faida utalain gay .qunkay ab gooli 23.12.11,say tamam harmioon ,yani Musarf,Samiull haq,Ijazul haq,aur Gani ki ulad kay sanain main pewasat hoo chuki hay jin ki waja say tamam mulazameen mushkal main paray hain,aur in tamam koo ab siza bhee qudrat ki terf say unkareeb mil jay gee.
ReplyDeleteAOA to all
ReplyDeletei means to say that what expected scale will be given to the Junior Scale Steno / Stenotypists (newly upgraded from BS-12 to BS-14 in Federal & Provincial) in time scale after 03 years
if some one have information about this please share on the same
A.OA Ejaz Bahi. Please provide me ur contact no. I can discuss with u about this.
DeleteThanks
Ansar Mahmood Mirza
Stenogrpaher
PBD Gujrat
03466860115
AOA,to all,its means ,kay joo stenotypist BS-14 main hain woo direct 3 years bad BS-16,main hoo jain gay,aur BS-16 walay BS-17,main,aik baat aur hay,kay BS-15,ki dermian main post he nahi hay,BS-14 say BS-16 ,main hongay,yahan too jaghra laga how hay old stenographers-BS-15,kaa joo deprieved hain aur aik bar BS-16,2001,main laykar unko doobara BS-15,main kardeia gia asay aur booth mulazameen hain clerical cadar main bhee.
ReplyDeleteAOA to all
Deletethanks alot a.raihan bhai for information
AOA,to all ,of my colleagues,Joo Stenographers/stenotypist 1994,say yaa badd main selection grade lay chukay hain aur woo 23.12.11,taak,ausi aik scale main upgradation taak rahay hain woo bhee special advance increment kay haqdar hain,agar woo 2001,YAA 2002 main apni regular post per ausi scale main hogay hoon jasay ham ab 1994 selection grade aur 2001,main promotion/upgradation laykar
ReplyDeleteBPS-15,HE main 23.12.11,taak rahay hain ab 22.12.11 taak advance increment kay haqdar hain,23.12.11,say BPS-16 ,main upgrade howay hain,aik premature increment kay bhee haqdar hain,joo federal mulazameen laychukay hain,sirf provincials govt:ki terf say notification jari honin kay bad parents departments koo apni applications submit karain gay.Yay comments main abee recently audit fficer A.G.office KPK,peshawar say lengthy discussion kay bad publish kar rahah hoon.
AOA to all colleagues, Raihan Bhai, neither Stenotypist nor Stenographer will be placed in the next scale untill time scale to deprived is not allowed first.The newly upgraded stenographers will automatically be allowed after completion of 3 years as APS The Stenotypist are already eligible for promotion as APS B-16 if post is available in his department otherwise Graduation and authority is PSC for direct appointment.So time scale for for deprived is must in reference to para-2 of S.No.1 of O.M dated 23.12.2011. Time scale direct for upgraded stenos will not be allowed because there is no reason and precedent for them only precedent is for deprived. peoples says that 2 years have been completed and after one year time scale will be granted is lolly pop which is pleas of common sense.
ReplyDeleteSabir Chauhan
AOA,Sabir Chauhan bahai,and my all collequeas ,Apkay comments bilkal dursat hain,liqan jis waqat yay ham RTD,hoqay hain too hamaray janasheenoo nain hamri jaga sanbal lie hay,asi tera posts bhee available hojain gee,jis kay joo naseeb main hay aus koo mil jay gaa,liqan agar pehelay say koi qanoon ais baray main moojood hoo too rata ban jata hay,aik Hero ki waja say kitnain hamaray colleaques,mustafeed hoochukay hain aur in future bhee hongay koi nana koi rasta anay waloon kayliay nikal aayay gaa.
ReplyDeleteRaihan bhai mn ny rule ki bat ki hay.Baqi qismat apni apni hoti hay dikhain B-17 waly automatically B-19 min chaly gay. Halanky stenographers ko B-17 ka faisla tha magar ministry ny badmashi sy B-16 dia, daleel aur rule sy bat ki jay to achi lagti hay betuki bat ka koi faida ni hota.
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AOA,Dear Sabir Chauhan Bahai,main aik Audit officer AG KPK,office say yesterday mulaqat karchuka hoon,aus nain kaha kay,joo Stenographers upgradation taak BPS-15 main thay woo aik special increment kay haqdar hain,qunkay woo same pay scale main thay.according to finance division kay letter kay mutabic ,liqan joo noification ab govt:of kpk nain jari kia hay aus main yay lafaz akhar main likh deia hay kay "these order will be effective from the date of its issuance "yay dt:21.02.2014,koo issue howa hay ,ais kay mutalaq kuch apnain comments dain too booth mehrabani hogi.
ReplyDeleteRaihan bhai, KPK k orders ghalat hain, AGPR, Punjab and Baluchistan same scale promotion walon ko 2 increments dey rahain hain first on fixation and second pre-mature. Mn ny Wafaqi Mohtasib ky colleagues ki Pay slip ki kapian apny Head office Quetta ke bhej di hain wo jon hi pay slip jari karain gay ap ko bhej don ga. waisy 5.11.2012 ka finance division ka O.M buhat clear hay jo supreme court ky hukam kay bad jari hua hay.
ReplyDeleteSabir Chauhan, Lahore
20% special allowance which was challenged in intra court has been suspended by the court. Wait for the orders.
ReplyDeleteSabir Chauhan
AOA,Sabir Chuhan bahi,ais kay mutalaq bathain kay increment BPS-15 KI milay gee,kay BPS-16 KI.
ReplyDeleteRaihan bhai, 2 increments one on fixation in B-16 i.e. same scale promotion and second pre-mature O.M referred above is very clear. I am waiting for pay slip from Head Office Quetta, as soon as it is received I will float it on the forum, if otherwise, I will knock the door of court for my right with reference to the pay slips issued by the AGPR Lahore and Quetta.. Please wait for few days.
ReplyDeleteSabir Chauhan
Thanks Sabir Chuhan bahai.
ReplyDeleteChauhan Bhai!
ReplyDeleteAssalam-o-Alaikum
Sir as you gave ur comment above that 20% special allowance which was challenged by Finance Division in Islamabad High Court as well as in Supreme Court of Pakistan. Which court suspend the Intra Court Appeal. Islamabad High Court or Supreme Court.
Can our hopes are still alive or not?????????
Would u like to give your comments on it.
Kind Regard,
Zulfiqar Awan
Dear Zulfiqar Bhai intra court appeal was in islamabad high court due which 20% case is suspended It does not mean that case is finished court will fix date for hearing both the parties will give their arguments and than court will reach at decision. It seems that Govt intend to linger on this case upto June. May allah help us and give them courage to help peoples in these hard days.
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AOA,to all of my colleaques,Main ajj dated:19.3.2014,koo SR-1.Govt:of KPK,SAY mila aur aus ko written application bama detailed of my service record pash kia ,aur aus nain mutalay kay baad ,muj koo kahaa kay Advance increments sirf Assistant aur clerical staff koo milay gee,Stenographers,sirf premature increment laingay,case financial application kay sath agay higher authorities koo bej deia hay umeed hay ais month kay end taak notification jari hoo jay gaa.Ab notification dekh kar aus kay mutabiq kuch karsakain gaay.
ReplyDeleteSR-1 sahib ghalat kah rahay hain, agar Assistant and Clerical staff ko mily gi tu stenographers ko kun ni mil sakti Raihan bhai thora sa wait krain aur jin ko fixation and premature ki 2 increments detain hain us ki kapian lain pher dikhtain hain apna rabta number dain bat krain gy
ReplyDeleteSabir Chauhan
Thanks,Sabir Chauhan Bahai,ham koo honsala dainay aur hamri himat baranay kaa,jab notification KPK,ki terf say jari hojay ,aur apki terf say pay slip ki photo copies mil jay too pher ham kuch kar sakain gaay phil hal apki advice par amal kartay howay thora sa wait kar laingay.
ReplyDeleteDear Sabir Bhai
ReplyDeleteHope you and all my other APS brothers would be fine and doing great guns. I want to ask a question from my learned brother what is the further scope of promotion for APS in your and all other likewise govt organization. We when we were Stenographers were stuck in BS-15 and now I am afraid we will again be stuck in BS-16. As there looks no further promotion venue for this very dedicated but deprived class. Can you give me your expert opinion on this. Is there any chance for BS-17 for this deprived cadre or is there any chance for restoration of Selection Grade so we can go to BS-17. Is there any chance for time scale as our brother Mr. Khalid have secured for Private Secretaries and they now can penetrate up to BS-19/20 but sorry to say APS are once stuck right in the middle.
AOA Khan Bhai and other colleagues. If you are a regular learner of this forum then you will well versed about my comments about the grant of time scale for deprived stenos This is only the way to open the venue to enter in B-17 for APS, but our dear brother Khalid says that after one year time scale will be allowed to all, in my opinion this is not possible to grant the B-17 to all at a time In my opinion time scale should be allowed first to deprived from 23.12.2011 as B-18 granted to to PS vide sub para-2 of para-1 of O.M dated 23.12.2011 then it will be continued for newly upgraded with some terms and condition that may satisfactorly service of 3 years etc. So far as direct B-17 is concerned which is not possible.Because there are many departments who have not the post of B-21 and 22, where the post of B-20 is available there is not post of PS, hence time scale for deprived is immediately must from 23.12.2011 otherwise there will ne chance of time scale for newly upgraded posts. Thase for time scale is already in FST and due to non existence of Chairman the case is pending without any time limit.Pray to God for appointment of Chairman FST so that the hearing be started and hopefully wait for good news.
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Many thanks for your prompt reply but my query is not fully attended, I wish to ask what is the restriction to give time scale to present up-graded APS like govt have given to teaching cadre recently and why not we try to get our up-gradation with back date like our CMA deptt did i.e. way back from 2002 or 2003 etc etc to get maximum financial benefit at least. Also suggest what can be mode of further promotion for APS whether they will retire in BS-16 as they were already retiring in BS-15 when they were stenographer or there is some room for their promotion left and what about selection scale if it is restored, is it not a shortest possible entry to BS-17.
DeleteMy regards
Safdar
AOA,to all of my others colleaques,Junab Sabir Chauhan Suhaib ,kay comments bilkal qanoon kay mutabiq dursat hain,jab taak depreived stenographers,kaa FST,main decision nhai hoojata,aus waqat taak koi aur chance time scale kaa new upgraded kayliay hona momkin nahi.
ReplyDeleteAOA,to all of my others colleaques,Junab Sabir Chauhan Suhaib ,kay comments bilkal qanoon kay mutabiq dursat hain,jab taak depreived stenographers,kaa FST,main decision nhai hoojata,aus waqat taak koi aur chance time scale kaa new upgraded kayliay hona momkin nahi.
ReplyDeleteAOA, Raihan bhai and all frieds, ap ny parha k time scale PS ko premature increment allow kr di gi hay. good news for PS..
ReplyDeleteSabir Chauhan
Dear Chauhan Bhai,
ReplyDeleteThere is no evidence received from Finance Division to issue such type of letter regarding premature increment for PS bcoz i checked from Finance Division and they are denying to issue such letter. If you have any letter of Finance Division plz display on this forum.
kind Regard,
Zulfiqar Awan
Khan bhai, the restriction to give time scale to newly upgraded person.Time scale is actually compensation for those who are holding a scale for long time, hence the condition for 3 years 7 years service in the present scale is always imposed. The APS have not much service in the grade, hence if time scale is allowed to deprived, it will be easy to grant it to the newly APS after 3 or 5 years as the Govt desired in case of deprived who have in some cases more than 15 years in B-16 by virtue of selection grade.
ReplyDeleteSabir Chauhan
Many thanks Sabir Bhai, what about my remaining points, I shall be highly thankful if you can throw some light on those too.
ReplyDeleteSafdar
The shortest entry in B-17 for APS is to grant of time scale to deprived from 23.12.2011 as to PS vide sub para-2 of para-1 of Finance Division O.M dated 23.12.2011 from the back date to those who were in selection grade and move-over to B-17 and from 1.7.2001 the repatriation of seniors in B-16. But, our leaders are trying time scale for newly upgraded which is not possible in this stage. It is then possible if, it is granted to deprived stenos and newly upgraded will be granted automatically after 3-5 years as the conditions may ;be imposed for deprived. This is the responsibility of leaders to take steps for time scales for deprived with reference to PS and Teaching persons.
ReplyDeleteSabir Chauhan
AOA,Sabir Chauhan,bahai,and to all of others colleques,bilkal dursat comments hain Sabir Chauhan bahai kay.
ReplyDeleteAOA Raihan bhai and all colleagues, few day ago a news was loaded that time scale PS have been allowed premature increment in light of SR-25 but after 3 days same was removed from the forum. I request to Khalid Bhai, please see who has deleted this, to delete any comment or news is not good practice.
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ReplyDeleteAOA to all colleagues that the up gradation of stenographers w.e.f. 23-12-2011 but the clerical up gradation w.e.f. 2007 the case filed for anti dated promotion w.e.f. 01-07-2007 instead of 23-12-2011 and also added the deprived stenos case including in the new case so all the community benefited. comments for colleagues.
DeleteAOA,to all colleaques ,Main Junab Khalid Riaz ,Hero of the all stenographers community say ajj miloon gaa aur ais kay mutalaq aus say mawashara karoon gaa kay aus ki kia ray hay ais issue per per apnain comments doon gaa.
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ReplyDeleteHope you and all my other brothers would be fine. It has been quite some time now but we could not move an inch forward to our demands.
Grade-17 is not being seen anywhere near
Time scale progress is quite slow.
Back date up-gradation to BS-16 to Stenographers does not look on the cards at the analogy of Account and Clerical, whey we are not trying to get this up-gradation way back fvrom 2007 or even earlier.
Special Pay for those APS who are working with BS-20 or above officers is not increased whereas all other such allowances have been increased by Govt.
Late sitting was first time granted to PA when they were in BS-15 @ Rs. 50/day which has not been enhanced to Rs. 100/day but is not being given to APS due to the reason that they are in BS-16 (gazetted). if this restriction of BS-16 can be removed our thousand of APS can get their due share in shape of Rs. 2000/- plus per month, but no step taken to this respect as yet.
It would highly be appreciated if all our members can be briefed/up-dated on the above mentioned points to see the present situation clearly.
Thanks a lot
Safdar
Good news for employees of BS-1 to BS-16 was coming soon but after laps of more than three months nothing has been listened. Is there any update?
ReplyDeleteAOA, Hay colleagues, now we may say good bye to this forum, because no one is taking interest even bother to reply any query or help.Hence, Hence deprived should choose their own way, as our association is not interesting in our case.
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AOA,to all of colleaques,and Mr.Sabir Chauhan Bahi,Baat yay hay kay jab Establishment he intrested nahi hay ,Chairman FST Ki taqrari kay liay too paya kasay challay gaa,woo aur mufad kay kamoon main lagay howay hain jin main unko mali faida hoo,too woo hamray problems main koi dilchaspi nahi latay,case pending hay ab in ko kab aqal aay gee ais kaa elim sirf govt:kay responsible he bata saktay hain Hamray Hero Khalid Riaz subhaib bhee ais liay khamoosh hain kay Chairman kaa taqarar hoo too kuch karain waran agay kuch nahi.
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ReplyDeleteAssalam-o-Alaikum
I have learned on facebook that KPK Government has approved the creation of posts of PS (BPS-17) who will work with Special Secretary (BPS-20) and this credit goes to KPK steno Association who worked hard for their rights and press hard for the creations of these posts before that PS BPS-17 allow to only work with BPS-21 AND BPS-22 ranks officers but now they success to create the posts of PS (BPS-17) who will work with BPS-20 officers which is the great achievement of KPK STENO ASSOCIATION.
Now being the Federal Government employees it is our responsibility to go ahead and do something to our steno community.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!zara sochay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Zulfiqar Awan
Dear Zulfiqar
DeleteMany thanks for taking so much interest in promoting harmony between APS/PS and giving your ever valuable views on this site. I am very much amused to see the valuable and historic work done by KPK Steno Association, it could really prove a milestone in the struggle of APS/PS all over Pakistan as it will definitely solve majority of our promotion problems if so implemented in Federal govt too through the kind linkages and efforts of our brother Khalid Bhai. We were previously stuck in BS-15 when we were Stenographer and now we are once again stuck in BS-16, if P.S entitlement is reduced to BS-20, a majority of our APS can pave way for further promotion to BS-17, 18, 19 & 20 also.
Once again thanks a lot for sharing this happy news with all of us.
Stay blessed.
Safdar
Wah Cantt
33 % quota has been restored in Military Accountant General Office and more than 20 senior auditors promoted as Assistant Accounts Officers in BPS-17. This site is now going to be closed as no response or to share something with coleagues by the host. thanks
ReplyDeleteGood efforts by all of you, We hope that some day we also hear a decision on 20% allowance for all govt. depats.
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Abid Ali
TDAP, Karachi
AOA,to all quleaques,aaj Mashriq Peshawar main published hoi,kay govt:of kpk,budget 2014-15 main tamam supdt ko BS-17,AUR ASSISTANT,16 AUR SR.C KOO 11 AUR JC KOO BS-9 DAGI.
ReplyDeleteAOA to colleagues of KPK a. raihan april 22,2014 congratulation to all colleagues who were in the range of upgradation. Kya KPK Govt. Stenographers ko be upgrade karnay ka arada rakhti hai. please comments Mr. A. Raihan.
ReplyDeleteAOA,to all colleques ,and Muhammad Shafiq Suhaib,Stenographers Association KPK,say baat hoi hay ,unki summary bhee unkareeb Chief Minister KPK,kay pass ponch jay gee,jis main Stenographer-BPS-14 KO 16 main upgrade kardeia jay gaa
ReplyDelete,liqan BPS-16 joo three years poray karay gaa aus koo BPS-17 Milay gaa q.k.yay already decided in upgradation amended rules.
AOA to colleagues of KPK a. raihan after three years up-gradation to abi cabnet division nay ok kya hai. Finance Department ke tarf say notification zarory hai ya nahi . please comments Mr. A. Raihan.
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ReplyDeleteAOA,to all colleaques ,joo notification issued howa hay finance division regulation wing ki terf say aus main clear wahzahat kr dei gai ,hay joo kay KPK,finance department nain endorsed karkay ham koo beja hay,ais kay bad koi imham nahi aur provincial govt:nain yay implement kardeia hay raha sawal depreived stenographers kaa woo bhee FST ka chairman jab aa jay gaa too woo bhee BPS-17,KAR day gaa BPS-16,kay depreived stenographers koo from 23.12.2011 say liqan new joo ab in service hain unka farmula notification main day deia gia hay.
ReplyDeleteDear. Raihan Sb
ReplyDeleteAssalam-o-Alaikum
Sir ap konsay notification ke bat kar rahay han plz upload notification on this forum in which mentioned of three year condition.
regards
Zulfiqar Awan
Sir, B-17 for Stenographers in Higher Education Commissions, Election Commission, Time Scale in Federal Education B-16 to B-17,20% for senior Auditors B-16 to B-17 Restored in MAG Office, FPSC Transport officer B-16 to B-17, in CDA 10 % quota Stenographers B-16 to B-17. Is there nothing any thing to do?
ReplyDeleteAOA,to Zulfiqar Awan suhaib,JAB,APS,kaa notification Provincial Govt:s departments kay liay kardain gee too Stenographers kaa words end hoo jay gaa,too APS,kayliay three years kay bad BPS-16TO BPS-17,khud implement hoo jay gaa tamam secretariate kay APS,kayliay yay hoochuka hay,ab departments kaylaiy bhee hoo jay gaa joo inservice hain woo zaroor ais say mustafeed hongay.
ReplyDeleteAOA,Zulfiqar Awan Suhaib,Superintendent,Assistant,S.Clerks,Junior Clerks ,kaa notification KPK,Govt:nain jari kardeia hay,jis kaa No.FD/SO(FR)10-22/2014,Dated:20.5.2014,hay,app apna address bejain too main apko copy TCS,kay zaria say bejawa doon gaa.
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